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Journalism Payola

Mon Apr 3, 2006 6:13 PM EDT
business, newsvine, journalism, ethics, code-of-honor, payola
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Not a week goes by when we don't get a call from a company who wants to get their content onto Newsvine. Usually, it's quite benevolent.

- A local newspaper wants us to pull their RSS feed and auto-publish it into the correct geographic section on our site.

- An entertainment gossip site wants to publish their stories to our entertainment section.

Under the right circumstances, if such a source published regular content which was better than the AP Wire (for instance, in Entertainment or in an international region), we would definitely explore doing a deal, and you can expect this sort of thing moving forward.

However, several days ago a company approached us with what we thought was a strange proposition:

"We are interested in syndicating our articles to your site and paying you to publish them online.", the initial e-mail said.

Paying us to publish articles. It sounded a little strange. Nevertheless, we agreed to a phone conversation to satisfy our curiosity. Turns out this company is fairly large and their articles appear in many major newspapers and online news sites. They are clearly of value to someone.

Not wanting to waste any time, we asked them during the opening moments of the call exactly how they operated and exactly why they wanted to pay us to publish their content. The answer surprised the hell out of us:

It turns out that companies (for instance, *insert mega electronics store here*) pay this company to write articles about their industry and sprinkle quotes from their employees and executives throughout. An example would be an article about the hottest new electronic gadgets people are buying during the holiday season. The article is professionally written -- with a very newsy slant -- and then a quote from an executive at *insert mega electronics store here* says something like "We've noticed at most of our urban stores that music devices really seem to be the hot item this year."

Whoa!

It's like journalism payola! Are people aware that this goes on? We certainly weren't. And we're not talking about a small operation here. We were pointed to multiple major online news sites and traditional newspapers that publish this stuff. The idea is that the more pages you can put in a newspaper (or on a news site), the more ads you can run, so newspapers are glad to add to their page count.

You can see where this benefits the companies who pay these faux-journalism outfits. They get articles written about products they sell and they get their company name inserted by way of quotations. You can also see where the faux-journalism outfits benefit. They are paid large sums of money to write and distribute this stuff. And you can also see where the end publisher benefits. More content equals more ads. But where does this leave readers? We all know that there is usually an "angle" behind everything we read online, in print, and anywhere else, but is it okay if the angle is the explicit payment by a company to essentially "synthesize" an article with the intent of passing it off as journalism?

The whole thing tasted wrong to us on many different levels so we politely declined the proposal. We told them that if we expected Newsvine users to follow the Code of Honor, we needed to follow it ourselves... particularly the part about not posting promotional material.

But the fact remains -- there are major news sources running this stuff and barely anybody knows about it. We're not here to point fingers or name names. We just want our readers to know that a) this stuff exists, and b) you will not find it on Newsvine.

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Rob Goodlatte

That's really noble of you guys, and it's absolutely the right thing to do. To pass off advertisements as news articles, no matter how well written, is downright slimy. Press releases are one thing, but paying a supposedly "independent" news source to drop your product or businesses name in an article about an industry is disgusting. Advertisement is fine, and even encouraged when it's useful and relevant, but it always should be clearly labeled as an ad. Thanks for sticking to your morals - it's damn tempting to sell out when lots of cash gets put on the table, but you're building a better service by being honest, and I think that better service leads to more money in the long run anyway.

  • 19 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:37 AM EST
Grey Wolf

Video News Releases (VNR) are aparently also common. It is the same as a press release in the print world. Just as in the print world, they are supposed to be identified as being produced by an outside source, but often are not. So, that clip on the evening news about farmers or Iraq may have been produced by somebody other than the local TV station, like ... the government.

    #1.1 - Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:07 PM EDT
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    Adam Hobson

    Thanks for letting us know about all this. I guess there is just one more reason to not trust the mainstream media. Though from what you say, it seems as the information is factual, it is just factual in a paid advertisement kind of way, rather than journalistic.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#2 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:40 AM EST
    Andy Lurig

    I'm generally surprised by this information, but I'm not sure I am shocked. Thanks for sticking to your Code on the matter and bringing this to our attention. I doubt that the Newsvine community would have expected anything different from the co-founders.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:48 AM EST
    Mykola Bilokonsky

    I guess my first thought is, why didn't I think of that? That seems somehow intuitively scuzzy but it's pretty tame compared to some media offenses we could probably list off if we put our thinking caps on.

    Still, that's cool that you guys have such a stand, I suppose. Where does this leave the guy who writes articles like that because he's interested in the subject? Are you gonna be screening posts to see if they are possibly shadow ads in this sense?

    If newsvine gets big, I could totally see companies paying people to write stories on newsvine in the same vein. I think. Any thoughts on that?

    • 6 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:52 AM EST
    Adam Hobson

    If newsvine gets big, I could totally see companies paying people to write stories on newsvine in the same vein. I think. Any thoughts on that?

    I feel that the newsvine users are clever enough and bloodthirsty enough (you get what I mean) to eventually pick apart such articles and label these authors for what they are. It would almost be a rather fun challenge. I believe that such an author may have already been discovered, but I forget in which comment thread it was discussed.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:00 AM EST
    theannalog

    Actually I was paid by the makers of the HPV vaccine to write my last post. Also, I love Microsoft and Coca-Cola. Uh, and AOL.

    But seriously, you guys are pretty easy on them by not naming names in this post. I understand your decision, but it's also kind of a bummer that these guys get to operate this way unscathed.

    • 21 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:06 AM EST
    dungbeetlemania

    a> I think you might be referring to my article, How to recognise pseudo-science, and the post I used as an example is "250 million year old krystal salt" by QBT, who has not responded to the post or the comments I left on another of his posts. He appears to be an 'absent landlord' to his column, which seems to be no more than an advertising vehicle. Most (not sure if it's all) of his seeds link to articles on Quantum Biocommunication, of which the author of QBT is the editor, and he is indeed the author of some of the 'articles', breaking the newsvine Code of Honour. And most (if not all) of the 'articles' on the Quantum Biocommunication website are simply long,drawn-out adverts posing as scientific articles. I have reported QBT to the team as an advertiser.

    Anyway, my two cents worth is Well Done Newsvine! However, another way of going forward with these kinds of articles is to allow them, but distinctly and obviously label them as advertising. My preference, however, is not to have them at all.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#7 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:17 AM EST
    JaneMurrayStringer

    Wow! I always read/listen to news while looking for a slant but this is really amazing. What product placement.! It just feels a little too Big Brother or "Josie and the Pussycats" (I can't believe I just used that reference).

    • 1 vote
    Reply#8 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:28 AM EST
    Adam Hobson

    dungbeetlemania: Those were the exact posts I was referring to.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#9 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:31 AM EST
    Mike D.

    For the record, this is not meant as an indictment of big media and shouldn't be taken as such. I'm sure the New York Times and the Washington Post don't post this sort of stuff. It's just that some other organizations apparently do.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#10 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:33 AM EST
    Djehuty

    Go newsvine! You guys are not being evil, and deserve kudos.

    It's a fascinating thing, though. It would be great to run a match what proportion of so-called news is actually this kind of advertising.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#11 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:44 AM EST
    Colin D. Devroe

    This is an example of what it is tough to find unbiased opinions on products and services. Another example of something like this is movie critics, which I've also begun to ignore.

      Reply#12 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:53 AM EST
      Matt May

      The lines tend to blur on the morning shows, too. Notice how much like an infomercial many of those "hot gadgets for spring" really are. Major cash is changing hands in a lot of cases.

      See, I'd be okay with someone paying to be placed, but with clear notification of that relationship, and a ban on closing comments. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. If a company balks at those terms, they're trying to deceive readers.

      And still, I don't think that's as bad as what often happens in TV news. Many companies (and more recently, the federal government) try to pitch PR-boosting stories as pre-produced packages to newsrooms who have space to run general-interest stories, and often, the only thing the stations who pick them up will do is have the local anchor do the voiceover. No critical thinking necessary. That's doubly shady: some PR flack borrowed the reputation of a news outlet for their own purposes, and either the news department was fooled by a bogus package, or they were so eager to use good video that they threw their journalistic integrity away for it.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#13 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:38 AM EST
      Mike D.

      Let it be known that Matt watches Daytime TV. :)

      • 1 vote
      Reply#14 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:02 AM EST
      josh

      Who doesn't enjoy Al Roker's shenanigans?

        Reply#15 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:16 AM EST
        Djehuty

        To follow on from what Matt was saying, remember when the US Military was caught covertly placing stories in the Iraqi press?

        Donald Rumsfeld wants to do this in the blogsphere, presumably targeting foreign governments like Iran - but then the internet is international... There's an article here in which I deconstruct his speech to the Council of Foreign Relations.

        I don't have a problem with things like the "Voice of America". Everyone knows that's like a Whitehouse press release. But blogs, newspapers, radio, anywhere which runs a story which is paid by any political or commercial interest - should declare that connection. Otherwise it's not news it's propaganda. Commercial propaganda or political propaganda, it should be (is!) against the journalistic code of ethics.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#16 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:20 AM EST
        Dennis M Wright

        You did the right thing guys. It's much like the blatant advertsing posted on here by Sony records some weeks back.

        You were right both morally and for good practical reasons. If you let that sort of stuff on here the real viners that make up the lifeblood (sap?) of Newsvine would mostly walk out on you I reckon. All that would be left is the advertising pseudo-news and no-one reading it.

        I'm not though surprised that Newsvine should find itself a target for this kind of thing. Take it as a compliment to your success - the sleazier side of news want a slice of it. Tell them where to get off, and thanks for disclosing to us this attempt to poison the vine.

        Also not surprised this sort of pseudo-news-cum-advertising goes on. You do see stuff and wonder. I suppose it's a more subtle variant of those awful documercials you get on American TV.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#17 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:56 AM EST
        Darkmane

        It's funny, that was what my wife did for a living right out of college. Not on a large scale, but writing bought and paid for reviews for a metropolitian paper. I just assumed everyone knew about this type of "journalism". What my wife did were called advertorials, I guess that this would be called the same thing.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#18 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:59 AM EST
        Mykola Bilokonsky

        Hehe, I'm trying to be careful not to outright condemn the whole practice because I'm about to graduate from college with a couple of BA's in various liberal arts, and suddenly writing "advertorials" sounds like something that could pay the bills ;)

        • 6 votes
        Reply#19 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:11 AM EST
        celle

        This is Big Buisness. It has been going on for decades. Many PR-firms nowadays use this as a marketing strategy, and as blogging and other things on the net evolves it will, of course, get worse. Take milk for instance. ARLA - the Swedish milk producers can't get rid of all the milk. Hard to export too since there is alot of milk in Europe. What do they do? Hire a firm that places articles about how everybody drinks Caffé Latte. A couple of years ago, almost no one drank Lattes, now they are everywhere, and almost nobody knows why. If you can start a trend, you're home free. And we all think we've made the decision ourselves. Neat little trick, making us believe we have a free will ;)

        At the same time surveys shows that people get more and more gullible. They do not care about where the "information" comes from.

        Small local newspapers and tv-stations publish these thing almost automatically today, since the thing that costs money in journalism are the wages.

        This is an advert bought and payed for by the Socialist Party party of Sweden.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#20 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:45 AM EST
        Smaran

        The whole thing tasted wrong to us on many different levels so we politely declined the proposal. We told them that if we expected Newsvine users to follow the Code of Honor, we needed to follow it ourselves... particularly the part about not posting promotional material.

        Right on!! I'm glad you guys aren't giving in. I would hate to read stuff like: Today mp3 players are popular with kids. Mr. (*insert Jobs here*) says "the new space ipod is selling more than any of our other products including our apparently coveted computers".

        • 2 votes
        Reply#21 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:54 AM EST
        Critt Jarvis

        Whoo-boy! No embedded infomercials, eh? Heh.

        Nothing like a little transparency to jiggle the Big Media business model. Thanks, Newsvine.

          Reply#22 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:37 AM EST
          Market Machinist

          It's like journalism payola! Are people aware that this goes on? We certainly weren't.

          You didn't hear the one about the Bush administration paying columnists a stipend to support its policies? Or producing television "news" spots for use by television news programs in which the "reporter" does not identify herself as a paid spokeperson for the government? You did not follow the debate over whether paying Iraqi journalists and editors under the table for coverage favorable to U.S. policy objectives? You haven't heard of marketing professionals posing as "peer reviewers" on Amazon and other sites to hype their products?

          You guys really are pure "content managers," aren't you? This naivete is going to get you into trouble.

          Subscribe to the Society of Professional Journalists' daily Press Notes and start reading the Online Journalism Review, takes some courses at Poynter, follow the the Editors Weblog ... Read up on codes of professional ethics and have a look at Reporters Without Borders and the Committee to Protect Journalists.

          "Content production" can cost some people their lives and liberty. If you want credibility as a source of news, act like you understand and respect that.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#23 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:57 AM EST
          Critt Jarvis

          @Market Machinist

          "Content production" can cost some people their lives and liberty. If you want credibility as a source of news, act like you understand and respect that.

          That might make a useful conversation. Having just read Gary Goldhammer's, "Death by Google: What News Must Do to Earn Back its Brand", I'd like to see a conversation on fidelity of message that includes context and perspective.

          Care to start a thread, on your column?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#24 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:37 AM EST
          Eric Atienza

          I'm really glad you guys took this kind of stand, but I'm kind of surprised that so many people are... surprised that this would happen.

          Aside from the White House paying journalists/writing their own news stories and placing it in local news, businesses have a history of doing this exact thing, especially in broadcast journalism. A lot of times the marketing department of a company will shoot what is basically a TV press release with a newsy slant (i.e. Trapper Keeper shoots a "commercial" in the guise of a news story about going back to school, with product placement all over the place) and then companies will send that tape to different news distributors. Many local news stations, with a dearth of news to cover and few reporters to cover it with, will take this release and air it, many times unedited. It takes up a good 5 minutes of their newscast, and they didn't have to pay anything to produce it.

          I would advise everyone (I'd assume most people on this site don't need this warning but here it is anyway) to never take anything you see or read at face value. You never know which outlets to trust (even the NY Times had its Jayson Blair) so the only thing protecting anyone from being mislead is their own ability to filter the spin from the news.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#25 - Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:57 AM EST
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