Payment System Is Live... But Not That Useful Yet

Beginning today, all Newsvine writers and seeders can access their earnings pages. Hooray! This release comes with a caveat, however:

Although the site has tripled its unique visitors since May, recording our best month ever in July, you may have noticed that ads have been very slow to roll in. This disappoints us, because even though we're now visited by several hundred thousand users a month, the site (and all other sites within the FM Publishing family, including Digg, Fark, Metafilter, etc.) still has a high level of unsold inventory. To the average web user, less ads is a good thing, but we're very concerned about helping you monetize your content and paying our own bills as well!

Our repping firm is almost as new as we are, so we're giving them a good solid chance to increase sales, and we hope to see the results in the coming weeks. Selling ads on new properties is not as easy as one might think.

So what does this mean for you, the contributor? Well, it means that the current number you see on your earnings page just represents the one ad we ran for a couple of weeks in June, so it may seem pretty low. It obviously does not reflect any contributions before June, or in the month of July. We're not able to give "real-time" earnings for several reasons, the most important being that there is a lag between when page views are registered and when the advertiser approves and executes payment. We're working to make earnings as real-time as possible, but for now, you should expect a month of lead-time. This short delay also allows us to account for page-view fraud.

We appreciate you bearing with us as we continue to make Newsvine the best place to read, write, and influence the news. Traffic has never been better, we continue to receive great press and interest, but advertising is just taking a bit longer to get going than we would have hoped. Our promise to you from the beginning remains unchanged, however: Where there is money to be made off of your content, you should make most of it. Read, write, and seed for the love of it, and the rest will come naturally.

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Allow me to be the first to say:

Woot!

Three digits! ...plus a period in there somewhere... ;)

  • 13 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:32 PM EDT

Well, I got three digits too, but the first two are zeros.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 6:57 PM EDT

I'm at three digits too, but like Myko there's "a period in there somewhere".

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:59 AM EDT
Reply

This news excites me almost as much as The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.

  • 10 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:48 PM EDT

I used to hate Will Ferrel for the longest time, but he's actually been funny in his movies lately and I being honest when I say that I am pumped for Talladega Nights.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:35 PM EDT

Oh it's quite hilarious, but I digress...

    #2.2 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:25 PM EDT

    Plancich, I had only heard good things about you from Maaz, but now I see that there is one giant imperfection. I think you'll need therapy until you are in love with Will Ferrell, as anything he is connected to is worth more than life itself to me.

    • 3 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:18 AM EDT

    Really? Care to explain 'Bewitched' for me? ;)

    • 2 votes
    #2.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:29 AM EDT

    Just don't pay any attention to anything except Ferrel.

      #2.5 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:30 AM EDT
      Reply

      Allow me to be the second to say:

      Double woot!

      Hooray for the biggest Newsvine feature to separate it from "those other guys." Great work, staff!

      • 9 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:49 PM EDT

      I guess I'm not allowed to be the second :(

      • 1 vote
      #3.1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:50 PM EDT
      Reply

      Wow, what are you guys going to do with all those moneys? If you bundle it all together, there is enough for a movie ticket and pop corn, but who is going to go?

      Best of luck with the venture though, and thanks for the update :)

      • 12 votes
      Reply#4 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:53 PM EDT

      Lets see... Claus has 44 dollars :-)

      • 5 votes
      #4.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 10:54 AM EDT

      Give it to Charity!?

      Wow, what are you guys going to do with all those moneys?

      I am glad to see that they have made it easy to give the money to charity. Is there a preference on how often. I have a whopping 52 cents if I read my statement correctly, should I wait to donate when I have more? In otherwords, what are the transaction costs, or are they already factored in?

      • 8 votes
      #4.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 12:56 PM EDT

      The transaction cost is me, looking up a number from the database and writing a check to the charity :)

      • 9 votes
      #4.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:20 PM EDT

      So like what, 50 bucks?

      • 1 vote
      #4.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:23 PM EDT

      Calvin does charge something like $35/hour for "administrative fees".

      • 1 vote
      #4.5 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:31 PM EDT
      Reply

      My heart be still.... good sirs of Newsvine, you are totally worthy of massive props.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#5 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:01 PM EDT

      Indeed. I like the direction this is headed.

      • 1 vote
      #5.1 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 9:25 PM EDT
      Reply

      Quadruple w00t!

      Still think it's hilarious that Milkdud beats Josh

      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:03 PM EDT

      PS: 40 cents! Quintuple W00t!

      Wonder what I should do with them?

      • 1 vote
      #6.1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:05 PM EDT

      Do you have to be 18 to get a PayPal account?

        #6.2 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:07 PM EDT

        PartyCasino slots baby, 1cent per play ;)

        • 3 votes
        #6.3 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:08 PM EDT
        Reply

        Where do you find the money page? I don't see it anywhere :(

          Reply#7 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:13 PM EDT

          Click "My column" on the sidebar, and then "Earnings" on the top bar.

          • 1 vote
          #7.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 7:00 PM EDT
          Reply

          I will maintain the PayPal account for the under aged. Just contact me and I will let you know how to deposit in our account. Others can deposit if they wish. In the meantime. I have spent a fortnight trying to think of ways to jazz up the advertising thing. Read tomorrow's report from Coshocton, Ohio to see what I have come up with.

          They may have fixed the accounting system but the spell check still doesn't work.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#8 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:16 PM EDT

          They may have fixed the accounting system but the spell check still doesn't work.

          I don't know what your problem is oldfogey! It's been working for me for months now. (wink wink)

          Hmm... Maybe you're right. It doesn't know how to spell "oldfogey," but it sure knows "old fart." ;-)

          • 6 votes
          #8.1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:27 PM EDT
          Reply

          $.31 to the Sierra Club!

          I'm surprised I garnered that much...

          • 4 votes
          Reply#9 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:19 PM EDT

          It was cool to see a number (even a small one) on my earnings page. It wasn't very much but it's a hell of a lot more than I got from my own blog ($0.00). Bonus!

          • 8 votes
          Reply#10 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:32 PM EDT

          LOL! I had the exact same reaction upon seeing my own earnings page.

          • 2 votes
          #10.1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:40 PM EDT

          Where is the damn earnings page you keep talking about?

            #10.2 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:20 PM EDT

            Where is the damn earnings page you keep talking about?

            Go to "Your Column" then look at the settings bar between "Account Settings" and "Your Friends."

            • 4 votes
            #10.3 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:53 PM EDT

            Huzzah! $8.18! I'm on fire, all thanks to the passionate and inflamed lovings of Obleo and winsomecowboy!

            • 4 votes
            #10.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:16 AM EDT

            I do what I can. I've got a notion you're solely responsible for my amassed .83 cents. My next article, "Everyone on Newsvine is completely full of @!$%#" is sure to get my viewership up.

            All my proceeds are going to Mel Gibson to break the stranglehold the Jews have over every facet of waking life. I'll probably buy a chicken sandwich, too.

            • 12 votes
            #10.5 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:57 AM EDT

            You know what really get your viewership up? Naked pictures. Of me. And you. Together.

            • 10 votes
            #10.6 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:03 AM EDT

            I'm not sure our servers are equipped to handle that sort of load. Please keep the clothes on for now, people.

            • 10 votes
            #10.7 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:08 AM EDT

            Hetep and Respect Kevin, Amen

              #10.8 - Wed Sep 6, 2006 2:57 AM EDT
              Reply

              I can't believe I made an entire $1.71 in June with that one ad (and only 3-4 articles). I beating Tom and Josh :)

              • 5 votes
              Reply#12 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 12:46 AM EDT

              Ooo, I beat you by 6 cents!

              • 2 votes
              #12.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:40 AM EDT

              We should have a Newsvine Earnings Pick 'Em.

              Will Claus top Corey this month or will Aine's avalanche of seeded links knock them both from the top spot? Hmmmm.....

              Maybe the winner of the game gets the same earnings as whoever is #1 for the month. Naw, I'm sure they'd rather have a Video iPod ;)

              • 9 votes
              #12.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:27 PM EDT

              Calvin, since you mentioned it, I think it is only fair that you now implement it. I am all for turning everything and anything into a fantasy game or gambling opportunity.

              • 2 votes
              #12.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:33 PM EDT

              Calvin:

              We should have a Newsvine Earnings Pick 'Em.

              Will Claus top Corey this month or will Aine's avalanche of seeded links knock them both from the top spot? Hmmmm.....

              Maybe the winner of the game gets the same earnings as whoever is #1 for the month. Naw, I'm sure they'd rather have a Video iPod ;)

              If June's figures are anything to go by, nobody need worry about competition from me, I doubt I'm even in the top ten. In my case, June productivity did not mean high profit. Perhaps Calvin knows something about July's numbers that the rest of us don't know.

              • 3 votes
              #12.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 10:12 PM EDT

              wow... Aine did not make money? What happened?

              • 1 vote
              #12.5 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 12:05 AM EDT

              Hmmm.... the only observation I can offer is that Aine's numbers were slightly down in June.

                #12.6 - Sun Aug 6, 2006 4:46 AM EDT
                Reply

                Never mind the money, I think you guys (Calvin, Mike D, and everyone) deserve credit for openness, good communication, and treating everyone here on the vine like equal partners in your excellent adventure. Thanks :-)

                • 11 votes
                Reply#13 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 12:46 AM EDT

                Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, but I think it's cool you guys built in the system to donate the cash directly to a few charities. Rock on.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#14 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:03 AM EDT

                @!$%# charity, man, 2 dollars and change converted into instant ramen, let's see, carry the one, that'll feed me for a month ;)

                • 6 votes
                #14.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:14 AM EDT

                Something tells me that the charity idea may have been directly related towards your recently charitable contributions, Corey. Thank yourself as well.

                • 1 vote
                #14.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 10:06 AM EDT
                Reply

                Since I am by far the most loved on Newsvine, it makes perfect sense that everyone on this site is devoted to me.

                So I have the most useful proposal, that for the charities, unless you really really want to, all the money goes directly into my account. Of course I will spend in in a fashion that makes me extremely pleased, and what makes me happy, makes you all happy, so everyone wins.

                And because I am so awesome, for the person who works the hardest to get money into my bank account, you will have the chance to come visit me here in Seattle. Now, you'll be paying for your ticket, so you'll have to plan out the details.

                But just imagine. You. Me. Emerald city. Together. Holding Hands. If you're really lucky I'll let you buy me dinner at the Space Needle. It's a dream come true for any of you, so start earning some dough for AWESOME ANSAB!

                • 6 votes
                Reply#15 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:25 AM EDT

                I think this qualifies as self-promotion... just barely though ;)

                • 8 votes
                #15.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:24 AM EDT

                I believe that the code means that nobody else promotes themselves, lest they hurt my income.

                • 3 votes
                #15.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:35 AM EDT

                Hmm, Ansab's the type of guy who thinks his Newsvine comments are highlighted in yellow for everyone! ;)

                • 9 votes
                #15.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:13 PM EDT

                Ansab's the type of guy who thinks his Newsvine comments are highlighted in yellow for everyone

                You mean they aren't?

                  #15.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 5:31 PM EDT

                  Ansab is the kind of guy who has 100 proxies to argue with himself on his articles :P

                  • 3 votes
                  #15.5 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 10:37 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  I'm surprised that no one has asked who/what 'shiggles' is yet. Inquisitive Newsviners, this one slipped right past ya!

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#16 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:36 AM EDT

                  I'm fairly certain that shiggles is not a real person and one of crazy Lance's playthings.

                  As such, shiggles should eclipse josh's ad earnings in about a week.

                  • 1 vote
                  #16.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:10 AM EDT

                  On my watchlist

                    #16.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:39 AM EDT

                    I'm fairly certain that shiggles is not a real person and one of crazy Lance's playthings.

                    Lance does play with himself quite often.

                    • 7 votes
                    #16.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:28 PM EDT

                    Lance does play with himself quite often.

                    T.M.I.

                    • 3 votes
                    #16.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 10:38 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    59C - come on!

                    Would be nice to give it to an international charity though. Not that I don't think that the (I assume) US charities aren't very deserving but I'd like to see something like Medicine Sans Frontiere or similar.

                    Or I could just spend it all on booze, drugs and loose women. That'd be fine too.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#17 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:55 AM EDT

                    Damn. What woman can you get for 59 cents? Hell, even I'm not that cheap.

                    • 5 votes
                    #17.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:03 AM EDT

                    Perhaps the Lebanese dept of the Red Crescent Moon or whatever they're called could use my 79 cents!?

                      #17.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 5:45 AM EDT

                      Or, perhaps I could donate my 59 cents back to Newsvine if I choose to. Then they could spend it all on drugs, booze and loose women.

                      • 2 votes
                      #17.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 9:49 AM EDT

                      We already have a fund for that.

                      • 3 votes
                      #17.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:29 PM EDT

                      We do? Screw the Sierra Club then, I'm giving back to you guys.

                      • 3 votes
                      #17.5 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:35 PM EDT

                      Hey! I made enough for a pack of cigarettes! Oh wait...

                      • 8 votes
                      #17.6 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 6:56 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      So June was a pretty slow month for me, compared to July. Perhaps I'll get 80 cents this time :)

                      (Moral: Don't quit your day job)

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#18 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:40 AM EDT

                      I made so much money in June I could by a $.25 gum ball and have change left! I feel way more important then I should about that probably......hehe

                        Reply#19 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:55 AM EDT

                        $.02 - I'm rockin. perhaps I should stop reading other peoples articles and start posting a few more of my own. $.02 is kind of poetic though - as I really have just put my $.02 in! Oh boy,that was lame.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#20 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 9:46 AM EDT

                        *rimshot*

                        • 3 votes
                        #20.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 9:53 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        How come I can't donate back to Newsvine?

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#21 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 9:56 AM EDT

                        Maybe we should add that option. We'll post photos of the results of those donations (i.e., Mike D., drunk, in compromising poses on the deck).

                        • 8 votes
                        #21.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:30 PM EDT

                        Strippers and booze are cheap in Seattle then? I can see why you moved there!

                          #21.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 6:41 PM EDT

                          I'd give my $0.10 back Newsvine. (photos or no photos)

                          BUT, until I see such an option, I'm giving my $0.10 to the American Red Cross.

                            #21.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:28 PM EDT

                            I think you guys should have a simple "re-invest all of my earnings" above all other choices... I have a feeling that while things get going, you'll at least get $400-$500 back.

                            • 1 vote
                            #21.4 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 1:25 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            well this sucks....

                            I made $1.58 in June, which is good, but I am not having any time to write much now.... this positive feedback hurts :-(

                            Oh well...

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#22 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:00 AM EDT

                            BMS, that's pretty good, I made $1.29, enough for a bottle of water, but you got enough for a Gatorade. BTW my last newsvine article isn't getting any love. It's part 2 of a Q&A with beach Volleyball Superstar Misty-May Treanor

                            • 2 votes
                            #22.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 12:53 PM EDT

                            Mike: Your "How to Make a Sex Tape" article has been getting some love lately though!

                            • 2 votes
                            #22.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:02 PM EDT

                            Hmm, that would explain why my firewall at work keeps blocking Mike's column.

                            • 4 votes
                            #22.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:10 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            They should have a "Tip" button on everyone's article which you can use to donate 1 cent to the author's earnings account from your own.

                            Of course, then everyone's article will probably end with, "Got some spare change?"

                            • 21 votes
                            Reply#23 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:06 AM EDT

                            Haha I like that! It's a trivial thing to do with trivial funds, but it could be a fun little feature.

                            • 4 votes
                            #23.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:09 AM EDT

                            Hehe, I initially mentioned it as a joke, but it would be kinda fun, huh?

                            • 2 votes
                            #23.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:29 AM EDT

                            It's a great idea. Whenever somebody has a truly great article, then they get extra cash. It would be more symbolic than a way to make money but it's a fabulous idea and we should definitely implement it.

                            • 3 votes
                            #23.3 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:28 PM EDT

                            Not a bad idea :)

                            • 2 votes
                            #23.4 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:32 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            Tipping is a great idea, I'll second that, but the button should be at the bottom next to the Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine button otherwise the design will get too busy.

                            • 10 votes
                            #24 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 1:04 PM EDT

                            Tipping is a great idea,

                            "I don't tip. I don't believe in it."

                            • 3 votes
                            #24.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 7:39 PM EDT

                            "How can you not tip?! Don't you know these people are depending on your tips!"

                            • 3 votes
                            #24.2 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 12:31 AM EDT

                            They may be depending on my tips, but they truly don't do squat to earn them.
                            I used to work shipping and receiving and made $8 and half a quarter an hour... actually. You think the waiters and waitresses who are getting $200 a night plus minimum wage(7.25 an hour here) are doing more work? working harder? are any more skilled than me? In toronto they don't even provide good service, so the lot of them can just get stuffed.

                            Tipping is a truly North American phenomenon. Waitressing and Bartending are not high skill jobs.

                            • 4 votes
                            #24.3 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 10:51 AM EDT
                            • 1 vote
                            #24.4 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:12 AM EDT

                            You think the waiters and waitresses who are getting $200 a night plus minimum wage(7.25 an hour here)

                            Unless you are in a fancy restaurant, you are not pulling in $200 a night waiting. Not only that, but waiting is a minimum wage exempt job and most have hourly wages around $3 something per hour. Tips really are the meat of their paycheck.

                            • 9 votes
                            #24.5 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:30 AM EDT

                            Actually, waiters and waitresses don't have to make minimum wage. I believe if tips are a part of the income, you only have to get paid something like 2.13 per hour plus tips. You try staying on your feet for 8 hour shifts, running around between 15 tables, pouring coffee, taking abuse and the whole time forcing yourself to smile - all of that for 2.13 an hour plus tips left by anyone who doesn't think like you do, Mr. Hodge. It's not easy. It may not be a high skill job, but it's a damn taxing job and for less than minimum wage I'd say it's a job that deserves tips.

                            • 9 votes
                            #24.6 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:41 AM EDT

                            In Canada there are no such laws.
                            they get minimum wage.
                            I know lots of places where people pull in about 200 a night or more that aren't fancy. Sleazy would be the word I'd use to describe them.

                            You try staying on your feet for 8 hour shifts, running around between 15 tables, pouring coffee, taking abuse and the whole time forcing yourself to smile

                            I dont know too many waiters or waitresses that actually work 8 hour shifts. I've never been to a place that would give a waiter 15 tables, and by the pure economics of it, if you only have to pay someone 2.13 an hour, why the hell would you not get more waiters and split the tables up. Every job i've ever had you take abuse at, so thats not much of an arguement. As for smiling... at least they're doing something for their 2.13 an hour.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.7 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:59 AM EDT

                            I believe if tips are a part of the income, you only have to get paid something like 2.13 per hour plus tips.

                            Just looked it up on the giant "Employment Rights" poster in my office. That $2.13 per hour is exactly right, however if that $2.13 plus tips does not meet minimum wage, then the employer must match it.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.8 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 12:06 PM EDT

                            I assume, Adam, hat you shook your fist at the poster before you began reading it? :-D

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.9 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 12:12 PM EDT

                            All the more reason not to tip, make the employer actually pay the full cost of his employees, instead of the 2.13 an hour bull@!$%#.

                            • 2 votes
                            #24.10 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 12:13 PM EDT

                            yea 2.13 is crazy, I usually tip, more based on the waiter/tresses performance. I know some managers, even if they make no tips, MAKE them claim 5$ in tips so they dont have to pay them min. wage, ridiculous

                            • 2 votes
                            #24.11 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 1:39 PM EDT

                            Actually, there are seven states, Including California, that pay their waiters/waitresses miniumum wage (not the $2.13 a hour) and the new minimum wage bills that are in congress would effectively destroy that for those seven states.

                            Thankfully, due to Google, I have a reference right here on the vine titled "Tips caught up in Minimum Wage Debate"

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.12 - Wed Aug 2, 2006 5:14 PM EDT

                            @mykola, they will make minimum wage whether you tip them or not. The average waiter deserves really not much more than that. In Canada, they get tips on top of minimum wage. Considering some of the other jobs that do get minimum wage, I do not feel that I should be throwing my hard earned money at them for doing their job.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.13 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 5:45 PM EDT

                            well.. really K.hodge.. their job is only to take your order and bring you your food... staying on top of your needs and making nice conversation and facilitating a pleasant dining experience beyond not being rude is on top of that.

                            • 8 votes
                            #24.14 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 5:54 PM EDT

                            And yet people still tip when the service is crap, simply because they feel obligated.

                            Do you really get outstanding service everywhere you go?
                            Tipping should be the exception, not the norm.

                            • 2 votes
                            #24.15 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 6:36 PM EDT

                            If I was your waiter I would throw drinks on you.

                            • 7 votes
                            #24.16 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 6:59 PM EDT

                            In America, where waiters dont make min. wage, they rely on it, so if its good i'll tip the normal amt, but if they are overly nice, very good, or just good looking, they may get more out of me.

                            • 4 votes
                            #24.17 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 7:29 PM EDT

                            Maybe one of you should just write an article on tipping ;)

                            • 6 votes
                            #24.18 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 8:15 PM EDT

                            yah, i'll get on it hahah.
                            what heading would it be under though?

                            seriously ansab, do you think they do anything worthy of $40-50 an hour? My brother was a waiter at the keg, he made this on a regular basis as a nineteen year old, on top of his minimum wage.

                            Andrew, we've been over this, if nobody tips them they have to be paid minimum wage. The more you tip, the less that the employer has to pay.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.19 - Thu Aug 3, 2006 9:50 PM EDT
                            AnsabDeleted

                            This string belongs in a separate seed. Please stop thread-jacking.

                            • 2 votes
                            #24.21 - Fri Aug 4, 2006 2:46 AM EDT

                            If they are around douchbags all day, getting slapped and bitched around, then yes, I believe that they deserve the money they get with tipping. I tip depending on service. If they waiter/waitress was polite, prompt, and helpful, then a large tip. If not, they can suck my dick. Or cock.

                            I agree with that, but most people tip regardless of whether they got good service.

                              #24.22 - Fri Aug 4, 2006 1:48 PM EDT

                              I think one of you should tackle this issue in an article, as Corey suggested. TopJedi, Miss Dev?

                              • 1 vote
                              #24.23 - Sun Aug 6, 2006 4:50 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              While wer'e talking Vine additions. How about a new Vinacity bud. It could be a small flower on the top for Vine Cache/Coolness- given to members who make cool contributions to the vine lexicon like Sweet Fennel or set a single article voting record or anything else deemed kewl by the community.

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#25 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 4:16 PM EDT

                              Could be a monthly/weekly privilege, you could even spotlight the member of the week or something!

                              • 2 votes
                              #25.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 10:41 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              I don't understand how this could be - I have earned 19 cents. How is that possible? I have not written any article/seed in over a month. (My total to-date is only 5). I have not invited anyone to Newsvine nor was I invited in the first place. So, how did I even make that money?

                              I'd like to see an option to "donate earnings to Newsvine" since I have already pledged my earnings to Newsvine in a pre-emptive move of shock and awe a long time ago.

                              I like the "tipping" idea, with a slight modification. In a restaurant, most places add the tip for you if your party consists of 6-8+ people. Likewise, if someone makes X dollars, a certain percent of it should be subtracted as "tip".

                              Another option that would be useful is to let people "gamble" online. Newsvine should set up a "Newsvine poker room" online where Newsviners can play each other with their earnings. The "house" will take a certain cut of each win.

                              Yet another option that would be useful to cent-earners like me is "donate to fountain". Newsvine can pick some city fountain where they throw all those pennies and make a wish on behalf of the requesting Newsvine member. That way, Newsvine can say that it carries out "Make-A-Wish" activities.

                              So, we will have online gaming and charity to add to the current offerings of news dissemination, propaganda propagation - Newsvine could soon become a colossal portal along the lines of Yahoo.

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                              Reply#26 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 5:18 PM EDT

                              Woah, slow down there cowboy! :D :)

                              I wonder if it'd be possible to figure out what earnings came from our column, and then what earnings came from which referred/invited users?

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                              #26.1 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 5:35 PM EDT

                              The money was for June, so your "Polls - the latest fad on Newsvine" is apparently worth 19 cents. I would also imagine that if anyone were to revisit your older stuff, then that would count as well.

                              Another option that would be useful is to let people "gamble" online. Newsvine should set up a "Newsvine poker room" online where Newsviners can play each other with their earnings. The "house" will take a certain cut of each win.

                              I believe hosting servers for gambling with real money is illegal in the United States.

                                #26.2 - Tue Aug 1, 2006 5:41 PM EDT
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