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Top Newsvine Earner Nets $414.27 in August

Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:34 PM EDT
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"Write for the love and the rest will work itself out."

This has been our advice to everyone who has joined the Newsvine community since our launch in March. We're not paying people to contribute here, but rather letting people earn their own returns via the reasonable amount of advertising we've worked hard (along with Federated Media) to populate around the site.

Although our policy is to allocate earnings 45 days after the end of every month, we're so thrilled about August's results that we're releasing the numbers a few weeks early this month.

So without further ado, it is our pleasure to announce that the top Newsvine earner earned $414.27 in August!

That's right. Over $400 for writing a few very well written and extremely popular articles -- a number that represents a 90% ad split in favor of the user.

No doubt the most active members of the Newsvine community will now be checking their earnings pages to see what their own numbers look like. It is important to remember that the sole determinant for earnings right now is page views times ad revenue per page view. The top earner wrote articles that were linked far and wide on the web and thus resulted in a lot of readership during the month of August. In the future, we'd like to add other factors into the mix, but bear with us as we continue to develop the system. The site was also about 35% sold out in August so as we work to increase that number to somewhere around 70%, it will positively affect everyone.

Our philosophy from the beginning has been "where there is money to be made from your content, you will make most of it" and August's results are the first real fruits of that mantra... and only a month after ads started running!

While we're on the topic of advertising and payments, we also thought it might be useful to illustrate exactly how the flow of advertising and revenue works on Newsvine. With Google AdSense's ability to pay users out instantaneously (albeit frequently at paltry $.25 or lower effective CPMs) it's important to know the different way in which display advertising works. To the right is a diagram of the advertising schedule for August.

Here are the important points:

  1. August, like any month will be filled with a mix of "sold" ads and "remnant" ads. In August, we were about 35% sold out with the rest of the ads running as remnant. Sold ads carry healthy CPMs while remnant ads are much lower, although generally higher than AdSense.
  2. As you can see, each advertiser (including remnant networks) has a 120 day window after their campaign ends in which to pay for the campaign. This is unfortunately a very long window but it's standard in the ad industry and there's not a whole lot that can be done about it. Large companies don't pay for their advertising in advance with credit cards so the only option is to invoice them.
  3. Although we'd rather wait until *we* actually get paid in order to distribute earnings to users, we've struck a middle ground at 45 days. Our rationale is that after 45 days, the chance that payment will eventually arrive and be accurate is very high. In general, if a traffic data dispute or other irregularity (page view fraud, etc) arises, it would likely become apparent within the first 45 days. So the end result is that we are paying you before we get paid, but at a point where we feel confident that we will be able to recover that distribution on our end.

In conclusion, we hope that we've illustrated the process of ad revenue and earnings distribution at Newsvine. As always, we're open to new ideas about how we might improve the experience for our users and nothing is fixed in stone.  We'd love to shrink the 45/120 day windows and will be working toward that goal to the extent that we can.  Until then, continue enjoying Newsvine as we look forward to more growth into 2007!

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merrydeath

This is really wonderful news... much better than I expected when I saw a post titled "untitled post" -- it's like a newsvine easter egg.

My earnings increased 500% percent from June to August. Awesome.

Thank you for sharing a bit more about how the ad-revenue works - I really appreciate the chart and the details. I think that you are being quite generous to make a payout to us before you have received your payment.

  • 14 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:56 PM EDT
Corey Spring

Let's all get naked and roll around in fennel.

  • 42 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:02 PM EDT
DAWeb

This should be come the new NewsVine Mantra!

  • 11 votes
#2.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:19 PM EDT
matiasjajaja

agree!

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:21 PM EDT
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AdipicAcid

Considering most Viners' lack of experience in the Big Blue Room, I have a bad feeling that the fennel might turn out to be Poison Oak instead...

  • 6 votes
#2.4 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:16 AM EDT
mariachi77

Well said, Ron Burgundy!

  • 3 votes
#2.5 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:36 PM EDT
lauhal

Will donate latest earnings of $1.10 to NOT see a bunch of nerdy guys rolling about in fennel.

  • 16 votes
#2.6 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:42 PM EDT
dianne

Oooooh, you are so healthy, lol

  • 2 votes
#2.7 - Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:03 AM EDT
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Peter M Graham

Very cool news! A quick and rough analysis of my numbers gives me a pay rate of just under 4 cents per vote that my articles and seeds got. That's obviously not a direct correlation to page views, but maybe it can give me an idea of what kind of earnings I might be getting in the future...

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:12 PM EDT
Spuds Stuff

Exciting times. While I was a longgggggggggggggggg way short of the $414 my eanrings did increase 440% from July. Here's hoping that trend continues.

  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:18 PM EDT
Walt D

Holy Makaroley! I can cash out if I want! Naaaaw... I'm gonna let it ride - just like in Vegas, baby! Great job, Newsvine!

  • 7 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:25 PM EDT
RichardG

I only joined towards the end of August, so I have a sneaking suspicion that I haven't earned over $400. Ah well.

I don't expect to earn a fortune, but I'm looking forward to seeing my first earnings statement. I'll be very impressed if I've made more than a dollar.

I'd like to be able to see more stats on my column and get to see them more quickly. It's great when you get lots of votes but I'd like to know more. I'd love to know the number of page views and visitors I'd had on each of my articles and on my homepage. It's be another driving factor to try and write great articles.

Why not some graphs too? Geeky people like me love graphs.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:27 PM EDT
RichardG

Just realised they're up now. Didn't quite make a whole dollar, but I did only join on 28 August. Looks promising for next month. Perhaps I can quit my day job after all.

  • 5 votes
#6.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:32 PM EDT
Nick McCouch

I agree, and somehow, I'd like to know how to make my articles better. Like advice to make them more professional looking.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Fri Oct 6, 2006 2:49 PM EDT
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Corey Spring

If you want to spruce them up from just a design standpoint, I whipped up a little guide awhile ago for those not familiar with code.

  • 4 votes
#6.4 - Mon Oct 9, 2006 3:48 PM EDT
M. Remmers

I whipped up a little guide awhile ago for those not familiar with code.

Be sure to Clip it for easy access. It's an attention whore's best-friend.

  • 1 vote
#6.5 - Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:20 AM EDT
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Lee Stone

My earnings were a lot higher than before and higher than i expected (though not even close to $400!).

I think its fantastic news that earnings are starting to pick up and will continue to do so. Stories like this will help give everyone hope and confidence that it is worthwhile. It may even attract more users to the site, hopefully they'll come for the right reasons.

  • 6 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:45 PM EDT
A. H. Min

Hear hear.

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:10 PM EDT
Steve Watts

Yeah, my earnings have quadrupled since I last checked them.

(Bringing me up to $3.50.)

All kidding aside, very cool that we're seeing upward mobility here on the earnings. Hopefully that will encourage more people to write, and join, and so on and so forth.

  • 5 votes
#7.2 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:49 PM EDT
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oldfogey

Sorry, I gotta get busy. I am still not in the 3 figures category. Time will tell. Keep pushing.

  • 5 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:48 PM EDT
Lee Stone

Wow, I was placing you as the $400 person. I must be really slow, or they must not be on my watchlist and post in a section i don't frequently read.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:52 PM EDT
Steve Watts

Wow, I was placing you as the $400 person.

Oooh, oooh, are we taking guesses? I'll put $20 on William McDade.

Err... better make that $3.50.

  • 6 votes
#8.2 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:59 PM EDT
Adam Hobson

It's bound to be Corey. Alexa, not that they are the most accurate, place his domain as the top viewed.

The only other possible candidate could be Keld. He often generates lengthy comment threads.

  • 7 votes
#8.3 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:38 PM EDT
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Paradox460

Waah! I want new features!

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 PM EDT
Mike D.

Major stuff coming shortly.

  • 22 votes
#9.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:59 PM EDT
Corey Spring

Suh-weet

  • 6 votes
#9.2 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:26 PM EDT
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Calvin Tang

I would love to see a top users list based upon page views, articles, comments, votes, etc...

User Leaderboard, in the works.

  • 13 votes
#9.6 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:44 PM EDT
Paradox460

How about the much lusted after customizeable homepage.
Or a PM system.

  • 2 votes
#9.7 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:30 PM EDT
Sean Balsiger

There's probably a good reason why you can't but you should have a list of the top 10 earners every month.

  • 4 votes
#9.8 - Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:04 PM EDT
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Lee Stone

I wonder what the competition is like between newsvine's staff columns. I bet milkdud has fallen down the list.

  • 9 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:56 PM EDT
Calvin Tang

....still higher than Josh though.

  • 11 votes
#10.1 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:45 PM EDT
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lauhal

Congratulations to the big winner(s)! Who's buyin' drinks?!

  • 5 votes
Reply#11 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:25 PM EDT
Sean Balsiger

So do you get money from seeding links or just from writing articles?

  • 3 votes
Reply#12 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:03 PM EDT
RichardG

You get it from both as long as people visit your seeds and/or articles. I'm not sure if people have to click on the adverts though.

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:26 PM EDT
Adam Hobson

I'm not sure if people have to click on the adverts though.

It's based on views. For example, why would CNBC care if you clicked on their ad for the "Conversations with Michael Eisner" show. They want you to watch the show, not click the ad. The more people that just see the ad, the more people will at least think about watching it.

  • 8 votes
#12.2 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:45 PM EDT
Dom Pody

I'm sure it's probably both, Adam, much like Google's Adsense program. The advertiser decides if they want it to be based on views or clickthroughs.

  • 4 votes
#12.3 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:55 PM EDT
Sean Balsiger

I hope I haven't been clicking on all my ads for nothing.

  • 2 votes
#12.4 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:49 AM EDT
Elliot Vos

I hope I haven't been clicking on all my ads for nothing.

From what I understand (that it's a CPM campaign)... you have.

  • 3 votes
#12.5 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:26 AM EDT
Corey Spring

It's in the article above guys:

It is important to remember that the sole determinant for earnings right now is page views times ad revenue per page view.

  • 6 votes
#12.6 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:31 AM EDT
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David Rutt

Wow, $9.94 this month - not enough for drugs and loose women, but might be enough to invest in some nice West Country Scrumpy. Hmmmm, cider.

Great job guys. Thanks for having us.

  • 6 votes
Reply#13 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:15 PM EDT
Chello

My earnings went up 6 fold since June......Thanks for sharing the info on ad revenue

  • 2 votes
Reply#14 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:17 PM EDT
Dom Pody

I got less than I expected in August- only $2.91- but I guess that's still double what I made in July.

Goes to show you- articles with a lot of debate (such as my 117 comment Iran article, coupled with my other Iran article with 58 comments) don't translate into large ad revenues. Eh, whataya gonna do?

  • 4 votes
Reply#15 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:40 PM EDT
bmc

woo hoo! i earned $.22 cool. actually more than i would have thought, i havnt really submitted any of my own written materials but i will soon.

  • 2 votes
Reply#16 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:27 PM EDT
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Zaki

you guys can laugh about your earnings

I made $4 in august, might not be much in the USA, but in Afghanistan, that buys me 4 taxi trips.

I'M RICH BIATCH! *honk* *honk*

  • 21 votes
Reply#17 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:02 PM EDT
Calvin Tang

Zaki, you're due a lot more than 4 bucks for your recent work. Remember that was for August, when you were still in the U.S. ;)

  • 12 votes
#17.1 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:48 PM EDT
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The OttO Show

Hey guys/gals -

Who should I donate my $414.27 to?

  • 6 votes
Reply#18 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:16 PM EDT
The Observer

The Republican National Committee

  • 4 votes
#18.1 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:18 PM EDT
Zaki

Bush's lawyers.

He's going to need a lot of potatoes in 2011.

  • 12 votes
#18.2 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:52 AM EDT
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matiasjajaja

Great,

I really like the way you guys (Newsvine) talks to us as real people, so transparent!

It feels great to be part of this community.

  • 7 votes
Reply#19 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:24 PM EDT
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Josue Salazar

yea, congrats

  • 3 votes
Reply#21 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:56 PM EDT
Ansab

I wonder who got the $400? I'm betting Killfile.

  • 8 votes
Reply#22 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:45 AM EDT
Killfile

I got about a tenth of that. Still... that was about 10 times more than I was expecting

  • 11 votes
#22.1 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:12 AM EDT
enigma

Hm, I was figuring it'd be you, too, Killfile.

  • 5 votes
#22.2 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:11 AM EDT
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Thura

Not to change the topic, but can newsvine release how may articles posted, ho wmany links seeded, that type of data on a monthly basis. Would be cool to know.

  • 6 votes
Reply#23 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:46 AM EDT
Marilyn L

Congratulations to Newsvine, for setting up this system that benefits us all.

  • 8 votes
Reply#24 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:08 AM EDT
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Oluseye

Well I salute your transparency and communication.

  • 3 votes
Reply#26 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:33 AM EDT
Mike Dojc

re: Top Newsvine Earner Nets $414.27 in August

WOW. That's awesome. I'm sure this news will attract a flood of new users and take Newsvine up another notch. Congrats to the Mike D, Calvin, Josh, Lance and the rest of the Newsvine team! This is phenomenal news.

  • 12 votes
Reply#27 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:18 AM EDT
vas

You got everyone but Mark and Tom, I think. Poor guys. They do all the slavin' while the other four... ;)

  • 11 votes
#27.1 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:34 AM EDT
tom

Thanks for the nod vas... I was feeling a little left out there.

Mark and I are the only 2 people left in the office for now, as the rest of the crew is out spending Milkdud's August Newsvine earnings on liquor and women.

I'm gonna use my earnings to buy a bottle of Two Buck Chuck once they're back.

  • 13 votes
#27.2 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:15 PM EDT
Elliot Vos

...and the intern...

  • 4 votes
#27.3 - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:53 PM EDT
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