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New Comment Threads are Live (For Some People)

The average age needed to style comments just went way down.

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Beginning today, we are rolling out a completely rewritten comment system. Some users may notice the changes immediately, and others may notice the new stuff several days later. In other words, this is a rolling release, and since it may contain some bugs, we'd rather only a subsection of the Newsvine population be exposed to it at this time.

So, what's new??? A lot of stuff. Some visible and some under the covers:

A WYSIWYG comment editor

At long last, you can now style your comments on Newsvine without typing out longhand XHTML tags. Using the new row of buttons on top of the comment box, you can do things like bold and italicize your text as well as adding links. If you aren't into clicking buttons, you can also use familiar shortcuts like Command-B (or Control-B on Windows) to accomplish the same. We give our thanks to the good folks developing the open-source TinyMCE editor for this bit of welcome awesomeness. Since WYSIWYG text editors on the web don't always produce perfect results, you can always switch to XHTML mode and enter tags in the old fashion way if you like. Swapping back and forth between modes is easy.

Resizable comment box with full screen mode

One of the nice things about the new comment editor is that you can stretch it to be as tall or short as you'd like and your preferred size will be remembered. So if you're a bit longwinded, you can have a big comment box on every page, and if you're more succinct, you can choose a smaller size. Sometimes, however, you're SO passionately engrossed in the penning of a genius comment that you really can't be bothered by any other text on the screen while you're spewing your wisdom. In cases like these, you can now hit the "Full Screen" button and your whole browser will become a canvas for your prose.

Real pagination

As the comment counts have grown at Newsvine, we have been working on a pagination solution which seeks to be an unobtrusive as possible while still allowing for reasonable page load times. We hate pagination over here and we hate sending people to different URLs to read an entire conversation. It's kind of like how you can't just watch an entire season of Dexter by picking up a DVD at your local video store. You have to go to the store multiple times, rent multiple discs, and watch the season piecemeal. It's good for the store and the movie studio as they make more money off of you, but it's bad for you. Pagination is no different, really. Sure we get a few more page views, but the tradeoff is that conversations can become fractured.

Paginating on Newsvine is particularly difficult because we have threaded comments, the super-useful "new" buttons, and the conversation tracker. While those elements make proper pagination extremely difficult, they are also what make Newsvine discussion threads -- from a technical standpoint -- more useful than most other sites' discussion threads.

With this release, we're rolling out "phase 2" of proper pagination on Newsvine (phase 1 was the temporary solution that's been in place for the last couple of months). There will be one more phase to the release, but this one fixes a lot of stuff and makes things generally much better.

Firstly, the conversation tracker now works across multiple pages. Secondly, the "new" buttons and stars now work properly across pages. In other words, if the next "new" comment on a thread happens to be on page 4 and you're on page 1, click on the "new" button will teleport you to page 4. Thirdly, we've turned the final "new" button red so you know you're at the last new comment. Click that final "new" button and you'll be taken to the top of the page. And finally, we now have numbered navigation at the bottoms of our comment threads so you can jump from page 1 to page 30 or directly to the last page with a single click. We're actually encouraged by the amount of bug reports we've gotten every single day for the last month or so about this. We love that people are interested in seeing not just the first comments but also the most recent ones (and theirs, of course).

A new spellchecker

Although our old spellchecker was apparently so good that OldFogey used it to spellcheck his Word documents, it was less than clean under the hood. Aside from using dated code, a new version of it had to be loaded for each domain. In other words, if you read articles from two Newsviners, you loaded the spellcheck twice. We've now switched to TinyMCE's built-in spellchecker so you only have to load the (much smaller) code once. The spellchecker's quite sharp looking as well. We like it even better than the last one.

A complete rewrite of the entire comment rendering process

The code which displays comments on Newsvine is fairly intricate and hasn't been rewritten in a long time. Over the last several months, there have been a lot of enhancements we've wanted to make to comment threads (such as the ones listed above) that we've held off on until the whole thing could be rewritten. It is now rewritten! With all of this heavy lifting out of the way, we look forward to adding things like avatars, country flags, and other elements to Newsvine comment threads that will further set them apart from the rest of the industry's. You may also find that story pages load a lot faster with the new comment service running.

Look for more improvements soon!

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{"commentId":3247985,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

Okay, this is strange, I read about it on a thread and all of a sudden, I have the feature too...

Twilight zone!

BUT - the boxes are all out of whack, not connected, with strange coloration.

Plus, the quoting is not working.  After a quote it won't let me type normally.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#51 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":3249060,"authorDomain":"anonemus1"}

try "enter" and then the quote button. works for me.

{"commentId":3249060,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"anonemus1"}
    #51.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3248176,"authorDomain":"tasarlai"}

    What I have at this moment

    Bold, Italic, Block Quote, Strike Through, Insert Link. Unlink, Ordered list, unordered list, Go Back, Go Forward, Remove Formatting, Toggle full screen, and Spell Check

    I am Jeremiah Johnson and I think it's kewl

    {"commentId":3248176,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"tasarlai"}
    • 1 vote
    Reply#52 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3248629,"authorDomain":"anonemus1"}

    And there I thought I got the new format for good behavior! LOL Pretty cool though. Thanks.

    {"commentId":3248629,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"anonemus1"}
    • 2 votes
    Reply#53 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3249001,"authorDomain":"moeloe"}

    This is very, very "kewl".    Love the changes - can't wait until you apply them to articles as well!! 
    Thanks to you all for the hard work!!

    PS - Any chance of adding smilies at some point? Might help avoid a few disputes if we can add a smirk, wink, or other visual to alert our fellow viners that we're being whimsical.

    {"commentId":3249001,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"moeloe"}
    • 3 votes
    Reply#54 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250044,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

    PS - Any chance of adding smilies at some point? Might help avoid a few disputes if we can add a smirk, wink, or other visual to alert our fellow viners that we're being whimsical.

    Hear, hear! It would certainly jazz things up a bit! :o)

    {"commentId":3250044,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
    • 3 votes
    #54.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250126,"authorDomain":"quinnwr"}

    Hi Ms Cyprah-

    Here's one for the techs. Your post, is 'eating' (overlapping) the bottom of the previous post you were answering. Plus the board is making the screen too wide, requiring me to use the slider bar to keep the board centered.

    But I'm patient, I know they will work out the bugs, and so far I kinda like the new toys.

    {"commentId":3250126,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"quinnwr"}
    • 2 votes
    #54.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250250,"authorDomain":"quinnwr"}

    Ok, now your post is no longer eating the prior post....but when I hit 'reply'....it shifts everthing 'screen left'.....so I have to use the slider again to center it.

    {"commentId":3250250,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"quinnwr"}
    • 1 vote
    #54.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3250050,"authorDomain":"mtseeker"}

    Little by little, all by all...

    Keep up the good work, coders!

    {"commentId":3250050,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"mtseeker"}
    • 2 votes
    Reply#55 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250098,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

    Keep up the good work, coders!

    Well said, MT. They re doing some excellent work, which is easy to forget in the bid to get everything perfect. :o)

    {"commentId":3250098,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
    • 2 votes
    #55.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3250521,"authorDomain":"CliffDog"}

    OK, maybe I'm showing my age, but I don't like it. What next, we'll start using text messaging spellings? What's wrong with people having to be a little computer literate to do some tricky posting? It's bad enough all the riff-raff we're getting on here. Now, I'm going to have to put up with 72 point font bold red blinking letters calling Obama a Muslim, or some such thing. No, we're on a slippery slope my friends, and I don't like where we're heading. Mark my words... OK, I'm only being half sarcastic. But I don't like it.

    {"commentId":3250521,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"CliffDog"}
    • 3 votes
    Reply#56 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250896,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}

    Hetep and Respect CliffDogg, You have some good points that I did not think of.

    Now, I'm going to have to put up with 72 point font bold red blinking letters calling Obama a Muslim, or some such thing. No, we're on a slippery slope my friends,

    As I raise up from being doubled over with laugher, it has dawned on me, that sometimes I am overly optimistic about technology improvments.

    {"commentId":3250896,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"Aunk"}
    • 4 votes
    #56.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3250548,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}

    I'm beginning to get it myself, but I'm encountering some difficulties with it.

    {"commentId":3250548,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}
    • 3 votes
    Reply#57 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250551,"authorDomain":"CliffDog"}

    {"commentId":3250551,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"CliffDog"}
    • 1 vote
    Reply#58 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3250646,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

    Cat got your tongue, CliffDogg? LOL

    {"commentId":3250646,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
    • 5 votes
    #58.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3252463,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

    Well, something new to learn.  Hoping for the best

    {"commentId":3252463,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
    • 2 votes
    Reply#59 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3253374,"authorDomain":"mike"}

    To everyone who noticed, ummm, "extreme weirdness" today, today was the day we rolled this stuff out to everyone so there were periods when the transition was a bit jacked.  Layout issues, spacing issues, hidden threads, etc.  It should all be working swimmingly now.  Please let us know if you're still noticing any weirdness.

    Thanks!

    {"commentId":3253374,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"mike"}
    • 10 votes
    Reply#60 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3255034,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

    I'm still getting layout wonkiness on some large comment threads, especially if it's the first time I've loaded that thread.  (Subsequent loads seem less likely to go all crazy on me.)

    {"commentId":3255034,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"spiffie"}
    • 2 votes
    #60.1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:21 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3255817,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}

    Yeah, I've encountered that too yesterday.

    {"commentId":3255817,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}
    • 3 votes
    #60.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:04 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3256900,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

    Yeah, on really long threads, my comments stretch all the way across the browser window.  Everything is centered, so the new button is cuddled up with the username, but the "click for next new" text is off to the left.

    {"commentId":3256900,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
    • 3 votes
    #60.3 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:56 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3256993,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

    It seems (at least in the cases where I've seen the stretching) that it goes further and further every time there is a deleted comment. So it will be fine, hit a deleted comment, be stretched a bit for a few comments until it hits another deleted comment and stretches a bit more, until eventually with enough deleted comments the comment box goes the width of the screen. Very strange indeed.

    {"commentId":3256993,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
    • 2 votes
    #60.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:03 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3258358,"authorDomain":"quinnwr"}

    It's not consistent, (IE: it didn't happen just now, but did a minute ago on another thread), but sometimes when I hit 'reply' the comment box opens...then the page reloads, and shows back up without the comment box. But when I hit 'reply' a second time, everything works normally.

    {"commentId":3258358,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"quinnwr"}
    • 4 votes
    #60.5 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:23 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3261760,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

    If it helps here is an actual example of a comment thread gone @!$%#ed up. Scroll down.

    {"commentId":3261760,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}
    • 5 votes
    #60.6 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3265432,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

    Looks like the ability to add crappy code means tags aren't being closed properly and the problem cascades down the rest of the page. It's hideous.

    {"commentId":3265432,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"redwolf"}
    • 5 votes
    #60.7 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":3253850,"authorDomain":"tasarlai"}

    OMG

    i have no idea why it did this

    {"commentId":3253850,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"tasarlai"}
      Reply#61 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
      {"commentId":3254249,"authorDomain":"blerten"}

      Ooh, so now I can see what everyone else saw. I guess bold beats ALL CAPS SHOUTING. Heh;-) Oh, wait, where did that "preview as you type" deal go? Not that I thought that was all that necessary;-)

      {"commentId":3254249,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"blerten"}
      • 2 votes
      Reply#62 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:58 AM EDT
      {"commentId":3266337,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

      I noticed that browser spell-check works in the comment boxes in Firefox 2.x now.  Sweet Fennel!  I hate having to hit a button for spell-check. I haven't checked in Firefox 3.x yet.

      {"commentId":3266337,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"divbyzero"}
      • 3 votes
      Reply#63 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3266516,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      Firefox's spellcheck has always worked for me on here...I haven't used the spellcheck button since there was a spellcheck button lol

      {"commentId":3266516,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
      • 2 votes
      #63.1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3267708,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

      Hmm...when the new comment boxes first came out my browser spell-check wasn't working.  In fact, I commented on it above somewhere.  I suppose they tweaked something.

      {"commentId":3267708,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"divbyzero"}
      • 1 vote
      #63.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3268112,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

      I prefer FireFox's spell checker. You can teach it. I'm now having problems with not being able to access flickr for pics.

      {"commentId":3268112,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}
      • 5 votes
      #63.3 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3273543,"authorDomain":"fugitive247"}

      Kyanna, yup. Still a no-go on Flickr. Even uploading images is still wonky. They won't show in edit for adding captions until saved as "unpublished" at least once. Then uploads sometimes refuse to display in preview. Bloody aggravating for now, but certainly not life-and-death.

      Thanks, NV Devs for working on all these assorted headaches. The end result is going to be schweet, no doubt!

      {"commentId":3273543,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"fugitive247"}
      • 6 votes
      #63.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 11:49 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3283175,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

      Spell-check is working in Firefox 3.x too.  Happy times!

      {"commentId":3283175,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"divbyzero"}
      • 2 votes
      #63.5 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
      {"commentId":3286064,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

      Even uploading images is still wonky

      Yep - discovered that. Had a Hell of a time uploading one of my own. It's embarassing but I had to use a picture of one of my grandbabies as a poor child for one of my articles. He's no Hilton, to be sure, but he does have hats, gloves and coats for winter. The article was about the local kids here that don't have those necessities without the help of our first division police.

      {"commentId":3286064,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}
      • 5 votes
      #63.6 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
      {"commentId":3300843,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Even uploading images is still wonky

      Yep - discovered that. Had a Hell of a time uploading one of my own. It's

      Yes, I forgot to mention that. When I did my cruise slide show story it would only let me upload one photo before no longer offering me the "upload photo" prompt/link. so I had to hit save and edit. It drove me crazy. And sometimes it would show no picture when one was really there.

      I've been considering suggesting we try an experiment that I've seen done at other communities - with names like daypix or day in the life - where we each document a pre-determined date via individual photo essays... but I'm definitely not going to suggest that until they figure out these bugs. 

      {"commentId":3300843,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
      • 2 votes
      #63.7 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3477836,"authorDomain":"fugitive247"}

      Hooray! It looks like the issues with Flickr & uploaded images are resolved. Thank you, Newsvine Devs!!!

      {"commentId":3477836,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"fugitive247"}
      • 4 votes
      #63.8 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3480676,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

      Hooray! It looks like the issues with Flickr & uploaded images are resolved. Thank you, Newsvine Devs!!!

      Must be recent because it was fubar when I did my booty call article on Saturday.

      {"commentId":3480676,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"divbyzero"}
      • 4 votes
      #63.9 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3481580,"authorDomain":"fugitive247"}

      Yes, Div. I believe you're correct on the timing. I only noticed the fix a couple of nights ago. Now I'm inspired to get some previously pic-less drafts completed. Question is: will they get published before I'm forced offline for a bit? **tick-tick-tick-tick** ⇐ baby clock

      {"commentId":3481580,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"fugitive247"}
      • 4 votes
      #63.10 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":3273000,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

      Can someone please cheq spellcheck?

      {"commentId":3273000,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"pmags"}
      • 2 votes
      Reply#64 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3290995,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      y it wrks phine


      I just have one question:
      So is there a way to read all of the comments on one single page?

      {"commentId":3290995,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
        #64.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3292010,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}
        So is there a way to read all of the comments on one single page?

        No.  Stop whining. <grin>

        {"commentId":3292010,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"divbyzero"}
        • 1 vote
        #64.2 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:50 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3298618,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        it's my birthday and i'll whine if i want to.

        :)

        Seriously let me ask a dumb question.Maybe there's an easier way to do this:

        I'd like to read, say, Killfile's debate discussion. I'm going to be offline while at work all day tomorrow. Used to be I had two options kept that newsvine window open all day or copy and paste everything into another program.

        Now I'd have to do cut and paste once for each window or open like 33 different windows.

        Surely there's a shortcut I don't know of (beyond, say, skipping the job)

        Of course if they'd just make a print option (as in print all) that'd be another great solution but I won't hold my breath.

        {"commentId":3298618,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
        • 1 vote
        #64.3 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":3308683,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

        NV Blog:

        How the hell do you anchor links?

        {"commentId":3308683,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
        • 2 votes
        Reply#65 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
        {"commentId":3310231,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

        With the link button!  (5th button from the left; looks like a little link of chain.)

        {"commentId":3310231,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"spiffie"}
        • 3 votes
        #65.1 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3310387,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
        {"commentId":3310387,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
        • 2 votes
        #65.2 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3310539,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

        That's not what it looks like for me.  Select the text, hit the link button, enter the URL into the little window that pops up.  Looks like this.

        {"commentId":3310539,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"spiffie"}
        • 2 votes
        #65.3 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3310905,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
        {"commentId":3310905,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
        • 4 votes
        #65.4 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3313094,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

        As it pleases.

        {"commentId":3313094,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"spiffie"}
        • 4 votes
        #65.5 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3316695,"authorDomain":"spookybf"}

        grr r...

        {"commentId":3316695,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"spookybf"}
        • 1 vote
        #65.6 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":3323198,"authorDomain":"eriktheread"}

        I'm on Opera, I simply can't "Post Comment" The "post comment" hyperlink text remains gray. Have switched to Safari and that seems to work fine. Posting from P.R. of China.

        Opera:

        1. Versjon 9.52
        2. Versjonssteg 4916
        3. Plattform Mac OS X
        4. System 10.5.5
        5. Java Java Runtime

        {"commentId":3323198,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"eriktheread"}
        • 1 vote
        Reply#66 - Sun Oct 5, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3423704,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

        I'm having a problem with inserting links into messages. What am I doing wrong?

        {"commentId":3423704,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"Wheel"}
        • 1 vote
        Reply#67 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:34 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3424590,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}

        Write some test.  Highlight the text you want linked.  Click on the chain icon. Paste the link in the pop-up box.  Voila!  That's all I do.

        {"commentId":3424590,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}
        • 4 votes
        #67.1 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3424622,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        They explain it in detail on the vinecast this week

        {"commentId":3424622,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
        • 1 vote
        #67.2 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:29 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3425646,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

        Thanks lauhal. :)

        {"commentId":3425646,"threadId":"370041","contentId":"1918925","authorDomain":"Wheel"}
        • 1 vote
        #67.3 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3428912,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}

        No problem my round little friend.  :)

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        #67.4 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":3423769,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        does the strike thru not work?test

        so we lost the del function fun?

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          Reply#68 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3424664,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

          as in this kind of mischief fun?

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            Reply#69 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
            {"commentId":3449101,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}

            How come I can can't do that?

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            #69.1 - Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:46 PM EDT
            {"commentId":3449111,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}

            see, no strike through in can


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              #69.2 - Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3471463,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

              I can only do it by switching to the old mode. It doesnt seem to work under the new mode.

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              #69.3 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:41 AM EDT
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              {"commentId":3424682,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}

              Hmmmmmm

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              Reply#70 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:32 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3424697,"authorDomain":"LAUHAL63"}

              mine showed in the preview, but not on the post  Weird

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              #70.1 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3424710,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

              if you mean the abc strike thru that's what happened to me too.

              I tried to make a joke earlier and it fell flat without that

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                #70.2 - Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":3430678,"authorDomain":"blerten"}

                OK, I sent a bug report, no reply, curious if any of you fine folk might know why, when I open conversation tracker, but ONLY from the home page, the "source" and "last check" columns are reversed so as to not match the header.

                A small problem, tiny even, like a pebble in the shoe, but who likes those?;-)

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                Reply#71 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:48 AM EDT
                {"commentId":3475887,"authorDomain":"quinnwr"}

                Just testing to see if the strikethrough works for me in 'Normal'.

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                Reply#72 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
                {"commentId":3475992,"authorDomain":"quinnwr"}

                Nope. It showed in the preview box, but disappeared when I hit 'post comment'. Try Again.
                Ok, it's showing in preview on the word 'again' in italic......so lets see if it stays or not......

                (edit)- Nope, it didn't....this is annoying.

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                #72.1 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
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                {"commentId":3476519,"authorDomain":"ririaroo"}

                ...

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                Reply#73 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:13 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3484338,"authorDomain":"quinnwr"}

                ... — — — ...

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                #73.1 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":3483694,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

                The strike through worked for me the other day, let's see if it does doesn't now

                Edit, I had to do it in XHTML Mode but it did work.

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                Reply#74 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3483757,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

                That's because the TInyMCE strikethrough isn't actually a del tag, but instead a span tag with a style set to strikethrough. But if you look in the XHTML tags allowed list, span isn't one of them, so newsvine strips the TinyMCE strikethrough.

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                #74.1 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3494163,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}

                Now that sounds like a good discreption of the problem. What is the fix. How does NV stop striping the strikethrough TinyMCE code? Or change the span tag to a del tag.

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                #74.2 - Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3495276,"authorDomain":"ririaroo"}

                I've noticed XHTML code in comments around the vine today...

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                #74.3 - Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:43 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3496575,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

                It's been happening rather frequently.  I suppose some people are just accustomed to typing out their code as they enter their comment & aren't paying attention to the fact that the default comment window is WYSIWYG now.

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                #74.4 - Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":3528357,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

                I don't suppose we can talk you all in to disabling this stuff til it has been to the exterminators? NewsVine was just barely operational last night and looks like we are headed for more of the same today. - The wailing and gnashing of teeth you keep hearing is your devoted Vine addicts

                *oh pleeeease*

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                Reply#75 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:09 PM EDT
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