Newsvine Now Supports Google AdSense

We've wired up a new-and-improved method of earning money from your Newsvine column. If you click the 'Newsvine.com' tab on your account page, you'll see a new link on the left-hand side: Google AdSense.

 

AdSense will supply at least one advertisement to seed pages, article pages, and, in New Newsvine, Newsvine Home Pages (i.e., every page at yourdomainname.newsvine.com will feature AdSense ads if you've set it up.)

AdSense is an impressive product and offers Viners more control over their ads in a few important ways. Most notably, users won't have to wait as long as they did for money to disburse from Newsvine Global HQ. Also, pay from Newsvine was prone to fluctuation; AdSense is known for remaining steady from month to month.

If you don't have an AdSense account already, registering now is a good idea - the review process takes about a week. You should receive a confirmation email shortly after registering.

For a step-by-step guide, we've created a support article here. There's only one requirement: your ad placement must be 300 x 250. We also strongly recommend you use Newsvine's values for your custom settings, also in the step-by-step guide.

November is the last month Newsviners will receive the traditional 90% of ad revenue generated by their column.

Newsviners must cash out - or donate - their earnings by Monday, December 31st.

UPDATE - 11/19/12 - We've reached out to Google after reports from users that their AdSense applications have been denied.

UPDATE - 12/19/12 - We've found a solution for users who had trouble both with rejected applications and registering at all. Read about it here.

 

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Rumors have been floating around for years that Microsoft would end its partnership with NBC. In addition to the political shifts, the financialand operational relationship between the two companies became a mess: Microsoft controlled a separate ad network for the website, which hindered some advertisers from running campaigns both online and on television.

Microsoft will continue to broker the ad relationships for the site during a transitional period.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/16/technology/microsoft-nbc-split/index.htm

Could this be part of why the switch to Ad Sense is being attempted? I know that there were rumors at the time of the split that it was not a very happy split. Could the change over that we are experiencing here on NV (the beta and Ad Sense) and the sudden departure of a founding member of the site, be an effort of NBC to strip any signs of influence that MS might have had on the site?

Note: The information above and the link was sent to me by another member of this site who stated they did not wish to be the recipient of some of the words such as have been directed at me within the discussion of this article. It would seem that for some unknown reason my opinions are not well received by some individuals, Oh well, what's the worst thing they could do? Have me banned? Punished? Or even worse, put me on ignore? wwbwb!!

  • 4 votes
#28 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:37 PM EST

crazyrooster, I hardly doubt any 'worst' things...I've seen errr probably worse. lol Anyway, they want money to pay for all the server, electric, staff etc bills that come with a website such as Newsvine. Other sites have a basic 'free' service but for more a member has to 'upgrade' & pay for it. So, they do ads for the online ad services.

It was a bonus that we also got a 'share' tho small in the profits that were left over after the bills were paid. Nice of them but wasn't really necessary to do.

To me the draw was the funnelling of a Lot of Internet news & information from various places across the world, all in one place. An added bonus was being able to form groups dedicated to singular topics, like my poetry group & without 'upgrading'...which I sincerely Hope they Never do or it would cost them members & interest.

I do think the MSN veered off into uncharted territory. Really good journalists are hard to find, they want a wide audience, not a smaller one & they do like to get paid better than a print journalist too, I would think. News sites that are informative without being more about entertainment are hard to find because they don't have the draw that the entertainment types do..which is nothing more than junk food for the brain. Oh well, if they do make it all good, if not I hope they reconsider, the two of them & join back up sometime in the future. :)

  • 5 votes
#28.1 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:53 PM EST

mstanley, One of the things that has kept me here on the vine is simply the ability to receive so much news and non news from one site! There are so many really good people here that write articles and seed informational articles such as MS CYPRAH (I hope she is asleep and does not hear that), yourself, and so many others that the page is too small to hold all their names. I actually would be willing to pay to be here if it meant that we would not lose many of the things we have all (or at least most of us) grown to enjoy. I am not by any stretch of the imagination could be considered an author (as the hits and votes on the few I have attempted will show), I do however enjoy reading the thoughts and concepts that many others who do have the skill that I do not possess. My concern is simply that with the new concept of "nations", which has the potential to restrict freedom of dissent, is not IMO the direction that this site should go, that along with the concept of a basically un-moderated "pig" trough for we who really have no desire to be forced to join nations to voice our opinions in a civil way, is a disaster waiting to happen. This is not my site, nor does it belong to the members, and the owners/mgmt are (and should be) allowed to make the decision on how the site is to be structured. Ok, before another rock (or was that a RPG?) hits the roof of my coop, I will go back silent. Have a wonderful day....

  • 4 votes
#28.2 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:27 PM EST

Don't concern yourself with few votes or comments, just write and post :)...after awhile more start coming by. It's the old build it they will come kind of situation. I post for my enjoyment & if someone likes it too, icing on the cake. :)

Took me awhile to learn to cook better too. :( You wouldn't Believe how my very First Thanksgiving dinner turned out. It was the saddest sight in the whole of any table Ever set. sighhhh After a Lot of practice, several elderly neighbors supervision, plus actually Remembering Grannies, Mom & Dad's cooking methods & instructions...I finally figured it out. :)

  • 3 votes
#28.3 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:44 PM EST

There are so many really good people here that write articles and seed informational articles such as MS CYPRAH (I hope she is asleep and does not hear that)

Crazyrooster, yes, I was asleep actually. But how kind of you with the compliment! Thank you.

Hope your days are getting better. :o)

Don't concern yourself with few votes or comments, just write and post :)

Absolutely great advice, mrstanley. The only way to get involved. Speak from the heart in your own way, or seed articles you like.

  • 6 votes
#28.4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:58 AM EST

CrazyRooster: I have wondered all sorts of similar things. I haven't been able to come to any conclusions.

Here's a suggestion, although I don't have the URL handy. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll post it as a seed on my column. Read the web blog entry by the man who was a (the?) founder of Newsvine, the person who left Newsvine shortly after Microsoft divested itself of NBC. You mentioned him in your comment, I forgot his name. He didn't write anything shocking, and he isn't grumpy, nor disgruntled! I'm not saying that at all. It was a nice blog post. But it does introduce yet other factors as possibilities for these changes. It led me to the conclusion that whatever the reasons, they were not easy to sort out and not likely to become apparent any time soon.

Then there are the MSNBC Development people, who also worked on Newsvine, though not a lot. I read their blog, or did, as they haven't updated it since April 2012, right after the split. No one ever commented on their posts! It made me feel sad, as they wrote stuff regularly every month, won prizes in external competitions sometimes, no one ever said congratulations. I finally commented a few times, and I think BlueArcher did too. They were friendly and responsive to our comments. So I don't know what is going on, and can't even ask them, as they don't post anything any longer.

I do know that this business of nations and the beta sounds far too complicated, much more trouble than it is likely to be worth.

I agree with you regarding the aspect of curation that Newsvine provides, or provided, for news content. One could go to one centralized, human filtered place, and get input from all over. One could then filter selectively, based on like-minded or even different-minded individuals as apparent from their comments. Choosing some different-minded individuals to follow was helpful, as it avoids confirmation bias. But if one wants some comforting validation, there were known like-minded types as well.

Anyway, I don't know what is going on here anymore and I am sad that the site is changing. I think it is unwise to do so, as change of this sort brings risk, especially in a volatile online "ecosystem" with so many alternatives chasing for people's time. The other really important thing, I truly hope that I am correct, is that now that the election is over, there will be less polarization and confrontation. Two-party elections, well, this most recent one, has made it very difficult. Local elections and maybe state ones have more than two choices e.g. select three out of this list of 10 people for county board of supervisors, or perhaps select one of five of a list of people for county medical examiner.

  • 3 votes
#28.5 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:26 PM EST

If you stay, you have to change. If you go, you have to change. Change is like a train. You can't stand in it's way and hope to stop it. But you are all talented and capable of handling this.

You better be because someone has to teach me how to do it.

  • 4 votes
#28.6 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:14 PM EST

Liselotte: Good evening, like you, I read Mike D.'s notice on his blog about leaving NV for bigger and better things. Very cordial, polite, but really did not say a whole lot as to what was going on or why he left NV in what could only called "suddenly", and it was curious that he did not post anything here on the Vine telling us good bye, or? While the change in upper management after a change in ownership is not uncommon, it was curious why one of the founding partners left so suddenly. This on it's own accord is not the problem, and as I have stated before, the lack of communication from the owners/mgmt is troubling and quite frankly as I have stated before, I feel like they are treating us as a collection of mushrooms. I am not against change, quite the contrary, I am all for change if it is a well structured and planned change, which in my humble opinion this whole beta project seems to have been poorly planned and not well executed and causes the loss of many features that we all had enjoyed for so long! Nations of like minded people, pig troughs, no friends list, sorry that won't work for me! It is not my site nor do they owe me anything, other than perhaps a simple explanation of what is going on here, well I suppose they don't actually "owe" it to me, but it would be kind if they would communicate with the members? Oh well, enough of my thoughts for now! Have a great evening.....

  • 3 votes
#28.7 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:28 PM EST

crazyrooster, good techie's are hard to find. Twitter made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He was involved over there somewhat from what I understood & an opening came up. He had to consider his future also. Happens. No big thing going in techie's changing companies. :)

  • 3 votes
#28.8 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:18 PM EST
  • 4 votes
#28.9 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:46 PM EST

spiffie, that was a great article. Thanks for the link. :)

  • 2 votes
#28.10 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 1:21 AM EST

If you stay, you have to change. If you go, you have to change. Change is like a train. You can't stand in it's way and hope to stop it. But you are all talented and capable of handling this.

This is the truest observation because change is inescapable. We can either accept it or be eft behind.

  • 3 votes
#28.11 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 7:21 AM EST

Ms Cyprah

Thank you for making the requested changes to your site in order to comply with our policies

What changes did you make to your site? Not that I've even been able to apply because of the URL problem, but I can think of a number of my articles that they may not like.

It's interesting that when I do the "objectionable" articles, their ads continue on the page.

  • 4 votes
#28.12 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:15 PM EST

What changes did you make to your site?

I just deleted it, rescue dog. I merely posted it for humour. Had it been something I really believed in or was passionate about, that's a different matter. I had to tell them beforehand what would do.

I think their robots are programmed for certain words, mainly to do with porn. Idon't think many people have to worry about their articles.

  • 4 votes
#28.13 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:20 PM EST

Rufusthedog,

This:

If you stay, you have to change. If you go, you have to change. Change is like a train. You can't stand in it's way and hope to stop it...

is applicable to some situations, but no so much here. There are good reasons to change and bad reasons to change. There is a saying about not changing what isn't broken. Perhaps Newsvine is implementing this change out of necessity, which is a good reason to make a bad change. But the amount of information we have been given makes this change seem unmotivated and idiosyncratic, to me.

This is Newsvine. We are not Microsoft Developer Network or Technet. Or part of the Oracle user group "ecosystem". Or StackOverflow. From what I can tell, Newsvine is setting up something that is as complicated as any of those technical communities. The new Newsvine, with so-called nations, no friends, no more groups, while completely up-ending a well-understood online community makes little obvious sense to me, GIVEN the available information. There may be very good reasons for it, but without having the slightest insight into what they may be, it seems like

  1. arbitrary change
  2. a significant learning curve and
  3. reduced functionality.

Ms CYPRAH: Regarding this:

change is inescapable. We can either accept it or be left behind.

Please!!! I don't mind hearing it once (Rufusdog already said it), even if I don't think it is relevant. Having it reiterated is like being told I'm a technology fearing Luddite. And thus reacting sarcastically, which I will forbear from doing.

  • 4 votes
#28.14 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:48 AM EST

Having it reiterated is like being told I'm a technology fearing Luddite

Liselotte, I was not reiterating anything. Just stating a fact, which was not addressed at anyone in particular, especially as I am also entitled to my own opinions! I cannot speak for how you might feel about anything. I can only speak for me and my feelings, which I did.

  • 3 votes
#28.15 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:33 AM EST
Reply

Wow - this is getting too complicated!

Maybe it's time to move on to another internet experience. The only thing that really keeps me glued to Newsvine is hoping for those little payouts each month.

  • 5 votes
Reply#29 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:28 PM EST

Rejection number 4.

When you sign up for AdSense we ask you to tell us the URL of the primary website that you want to show ads on. To successfully submit your AdSense application, the URL that you provide must be a domain that you own, and must not be a webpage or directory, or contain any parameters. For example, if you're the domain owner of example.com and that's the domain that you want to monetize with AdSense, then you should enter example.com in the box labelled "I will show ads on."

Valid URLs Invalid URLs

example.com
example.com/page.html

www.example.com
example.com/directory

example.com/?q=target

subdomain.example.com ------ fightingforrights.newsvine.com

subdomain.example.com/directory

subdomain.example.com/page.html

subdomain.example.com/?q=target

  • 5 votes
Reply#30 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:21 AM EST

I guess that Tyler/Newsvine will have to provide the correct answer that AdSense says they are looking for.

I did what AdSense asked for, and it was rejected, just like yours.

  • 6 votes
#30.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:43 PM EST

I used the URL for my page and it went well. Maybe they changed something and got it all messed up. I'm beginning to think all these rejections are do to a technical glitch.

  • 3 votes
#30.2 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:07 PM EST

I guess we will have to wait until we hear from Tyler. I know there are glitches because my column said I have not written or seeded any articles yet. Twice yesterday and again this morning right after I posted one. It's working now.

I Googled my URL and found all of them so I know I'm alive.

  • 6 votes
#30.3 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:17 PM EST

Newsvine used to give us 90% of the ad revenue from the traffic we generated.

Now it looks like Newsvine will be keeping 100% of the revenue from most of those ads while palming us longtime users off to Google AdSense to placate us. Well, whatever! It's not my website and MSNBC/NBC Online or whoever owns this place now can do whatever they want with it.

Newsvine is interesting, but it isn't the be all end all. There are a lot of news sites on the internet. I find myself wondering why I spend so much time here and the only real answer is that I get a few dollars each month. A far more efficient way to discover news articles that you might not otherwise see is through Twitter. I don't use Facebook, but I hear that it is also pretty good for that sort of thing.

If I sound annoyed, it's more that I am disappointed in the change. But like most internet illusions, this Newsvine experience was bound to get washed away sooner or later.

Now that the money won't be holding me here, I can give some thought to whether I want to be in a news sandbox that resembles two sports teams hurling donkey and elephant feces at each other all day.

But enough of my whining about Newsvine.

This place was awesomely fun during the build up to Obama's 2008 election. It felt like a tidal wave of social media had swept across our political system and THE PEOPLE would finally be heard in Washington after the long nightmare of George W. Bush had receded. Now, well, through no fault on the part of Newsvine it feels more like our votes don't even matter. Just like the GOPTP-birthers feel this deep seated hatred for and paranoia of our secret-Muslim-neo-fascist-Marxist-negro president, I feel a deep hatred and fear of them.

But we've established that you can keep me here for as little as 89 cents per month.

I'm not so sure you can do it for 88 cents a month!

  • 9 votes
#30.4 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:54 PM EST

I used the URL for my page and it went well. Maybe they changed something and got it all messed up. I'm beginning to think all these rejections are do to a technical glitch

I agree, rufusthedog, because I had no problem with my Newsvine URL.

Gulliver's Island, I can understand your frustration, but hang on in there. Changes and transitions are always stressful. It will sort itself out eventually and calm down, I'm sure. I would hate to see you go!! :o)

  • 5 votes
#30.5 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:01 AM EST

I just try to register with my Newsvine URL and it said it was an invalid URL.

  • 4 votes
#30.6 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:30 PM EST

When I put my Newsvine URL in Google, it brought to my home page.

http://onesearch4-2.newsvine.com

What am I doing wrong.

  • 4 votes
#30.7 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:03 PM EST

I just try to register with my Newsvine URL and it said it was an invalid URL.

Gosh, must be so frustrating for you!!

  • 2 votes
#30.8 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 7:22 AM EST

Same thing happened to me multiple times, RD. I had to walk away before I smashed the screen. ARRGGGGG!

  • 6 votes
#30.9 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 9:42 AM EST

I had the same experience... I just get rejected. :(

  • 5 votes
#30.10 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:02 PM EST
Reply

I've had 267 page views. All worth a grand total of 0.03. Isn't that exciting.

  • 6 votes
Reply#31 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM EST

I hope you don't have to pay taxes on it.

  • 3 votes
#31.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:22 PM EST

They do have with-holding so...

  • 4 votes
#31.2 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:17 PM EST

FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

I've seen that on my page and the same for a group I belong too.

  • 3 votes
#31.3 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:19 PM EST

I've had 267 page views. All worth a grand total of 0.03. Isn't that exciting.

I suppose you need thousands of views to bring it up to dollars then. But if you keep at it it will build up. Honest. :o)

  • 4 votes
#31.4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:03 AM EST

I just need to be around longer. Others have seeded a couple of thousand stories. I haven't done 100 yet. I am a little picky.

  • 4 votes
#31.5 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:36 AM EST

Be as picky as you like!! But your hundred will turn into thousands if you stick at it!! :o)

  • 3 votes
#31.6 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:44 AM EST

Thank you for the encouragement. :-)

  • 4 votes
#31.7 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:48 AM EST

You're most welcome. A pleasure!! :o)

Well, 4-5 years ago I was where you are, rufusthedog. I's just constant regular application that has multiplied what I have been doing. And it really does build up over time. The only advice I would give is this: Be as picky as you like, but in choosing what you think the READER wants, not just what you like. Often writers become self indulgent and forget about their audience and so lose readers.

  • 4 votes
#31.8 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:21 PM EST

I just found that out with a couple of stories this morning that really connected.

  • 4 votes
#31.9 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:27 PM EST

Great! Well done!! :o)

  • 2 votes
#31.10 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:40 PM EST
Reply

Leaving a comment so I can come back later. My computer is on the fritz and is in the 'shop', and I don't want to lose this article! Thanks, all, sorry to bother you with inanities!

  • 6 votes
Reply#32 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:08 PM EST

Hope it's fixed soon, Dowser! I know the inconvenience.

  • 5 votes
#32.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:42 PM EST
Reply

In my nearly three years here, I have finally accrued a few dollars under whatever the minimum amount is to get it paid out (I don't recall if that is $10 or $20). But it says that now that there is this change, that all payouts of existing funds need to be taken by some fixed date, which I also don't recall. How do I collect my $9 or whatever it is, if it isn't enough to be paid out according to the automated process?

I hope that it won't be claimed by Newsvine, on the basis that I abandoned it, because I didn't. I would like to have it, particularly since it required 2.5 years and possibly hundreds of hours to earn. Can anyone help? Ideas? If not, I will concede defeat quietly. Thank you for reading this.

P.S. Hi mstanley! It is nice to see you here. And Dowser too ;o)

  • 3 votes
Reply#33 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:14 PM EST

You have to have $25.00 to cash out to a/your PayPal account. If you have less you can donate it to one of the charities listed on the page, otherwise it will go back to the gremlins on 12/31.

  • 4 votes
#33.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:24 PM EST

Thank you, Neenie. I really appreciate your response. You were much faster and more detailed than via official channels.

I've been here since August 2010. I confirmed that I have earned a grand total of $19. It seems like the gremlins will get it. Contrary to some earlier comments that I perhaps recall, I believe that it is unrealistic to hope for or expect to earn thousands of dollars from Newsvine activity.

  • 2 votes
#33.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:46 AM EST

Ive been trying to get to the $25 mark so I can donate it to my LOCAL food bank. Im $1.23 short. I could donate to one of the charities NV lists, but I prefer to deal with charities in my area where I KNOW the money will be put to good use and not used for "overhead".

  • 6 votes
#33.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 9:47 AM EST

Well the charities listed are all pretty good and there is a link to charity navigator if you want more information on them. Anything is better than gremlins. :O)

  • 6 votes
#33.4 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:16 AM EST

Anything is better than gremlins. :O)

Very true!

  • 3 votes
#33.5 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:35 AM EST
Reply

What you have here is the basic conflict between the production process and the reward system. Beta is supposed to refine things which involves slowing down and focusing. The reward system requires page views and clicks ( quantity ) and the ranking system requires a certain number of seeds, articles,votes and comments (more quantity ). The reward system drives the behaviour. You must increase your circulation to to get the page views so people join every group in sight, which is why so many groups are alike. Then you do 4 polls a day because it's fun for people and it increases traffic ( page views and clicks again).Some people have thoroughly mastered the reward system and now the production process is changing in unpredictable ways, I can see the outrage. This is not just about the comfort level.

So how does this effect me, I haven't been using newsvine that long. Should I go for the gold ( quality, what ever that is deemed to be ) or page views, whatever it takes?

  • 4 votes
#34 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:42 PM EST

rufusthedog, there is a third, posting/seeding content that you find interesting & like ....to share with the rest of us. It includes writing articles though some don't write, they lean more towards reading. It's funneling the Internet offerings into one place, in 21 catagories. :)

Which is the basic concept of the NV. It turned into the unlimited posting/seeding to make money or be on the leaderboard or whatever other reason there could be. Mostly with blogger seeds. The idea of having legit information or NV member's written articles....was buried under the deluge of blogger seeds.

  • 5 votes
#34.1 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 8:01 AM EST

So how does this effect me, I haven't been using newsvine that long. Should I go for the gold ( quality, what ever that is deemed to be ) or page views, whatever it takes?

My advice would be go with what you FEEL is right, and what you enjoy. It will always come good in the end.

When I first started on Newsvine in 2007 with my relationship column, a number of people told me it wouldn't take off, because this is a news site, not a lifestyle one. They said others had tried and failed. I totally ignored them and just kept writing my articles week after week, picking up interested readers along the way. I started with barely 200 readers per month back then, which steadied at 1200 for a couple of years. Now it's 68,000 per month - and I won't even mention the page views!

Rufusthedog, I never compromise on what I believe in because I have to enjoy what I do, not what others think I should do, because money is secondary to me. Hence why I throw in humorous articles and polls to lighten it up and I am having a ball as the readership grows of its own accord.

Do what is right for YOU, have the faith in your efforts, and your own audience will build. :o)

  • 4 votes
#34.2 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 4:02 PM EST

this is a news site, not a lifestyle one.

There's enough room here for everybody. It's your column, after all. If somebody doesn't want to read what you publish, they don't have to go there.

I am having a ball as the readership grows of its own accord.

Except that now you never know when AdSense is going to cut the cord when you publish something they don't like, and it takes days to fix it.

I find it odd, that AdSense rejects users from Newsvine, and yet they have no problem with Urban Dictionary, and all the vulgarity that's defined on its pages.

  • 8 votes
#34.3 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:18 PM EST

I find it odd, that AdSense rejects users from Newsvine, and yet they have no problem with Urban Dictionary, and all the vulgarity that's defined on its pages.

Me too. Doesn't make much sense, especially when most of the items on here are seeds from other sites.

There's enough room here for everybody. It's your column, after all. If somebody doesn't want to read what you publish, they don't have to go there.

Indeed, but they didn't see it that way. As i was new, they thought I was just wasting my time!! Some people just prefer to impose their views than allow free movement, I suppose.

  • 4 votes
#34.4 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:38 PM EST

S.R.O.,

I find it odd, that AdSense rejects users from Newsvine, and yet they have no problem with Urban Dictionary, and all the vulgarity that's defined on its pages

Could it be possibly be because NV is in a lot of ways in direct competition with Google +? Wouldn't it be a kick in the butt if NV was sold to Google? What an ugly thought!!!

  • 5 votes
#34.5 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 6:07 PM EST

What would they call it...

Newgle?

  • 6 votes
#34.6 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 6:33 PM EST

LoL... I like that! ..A Goovine? ..You know, how Vine's get kind of slippery and slimey after they've been 'cut' from their foundation?

ooooooooo... Just kidding, Newsvine Staff...really, I was!

  • 2 votes
#34.7 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 6:39 PM EST

Could it be possibly be because NV is in a lot of ways in direct competition with Google +?

G+ has a lot of power backing it up, but I don't think they would stoop that low.

Wouldn't it be a kick in the butt if NV was sold to Google?

NV is too deeply embedded in NBC for that to happen. I could see NV disappearing as a separate entity, since NBC only needs NV's technology, not their dedicated users.

  • 5 votes
#34.8 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 6:53 PM EST

SRO, I don't know about the last. I've seen some stuff go up the next day, that I saw here first. :) Not real often but IMO that we have more watchers than we know. :)

  • 3 votes
#34.9 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 8:56 PM EST

I don't know about the last. I've seen some stuff go up the next day, that I saw here first.

I don't know what you mean by this. What stuff, seen where?

  • 4 votes
#34.10 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 9:02 PM EST

Here is a little more information to think about when you look at google and what they might and might not do. I would not like to think they were looking at NV, but they are trying to grow, and perhaps they might consider that NV would be a worth while asset? I don't think that this is what is happening, but still wonder what is going on, too much of nothing? or? Maybe the powers that be will communicate with us tomorrow? Yes, that is it, they are waiting until tomorrow.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/01/23/googles-big-problem-they-dont-want-you-to-know-about/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/04/30/heres-why-google-and-facebook-might-completely-disappear-in-the-next-5-years/2/

  • 3 votes
#34.11 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 10:09 PM EST

crazyrooster.... What's pointed out in the links is exactly what I think; evolution. That's what was indicated in MDs final letter. Not much seems stagnant in this industry. As others have said many times, it's always about the money and the next big thing..

  • 4 votes
#34.12 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:58 AM EST

SRO, someone will post an article from their corner of the world & one of the media will pick it up. It's not always the big topics. I'm not sure if they found it themselves, but it seemed odd that when it's here, than it shows up on say yahoo the next day.

  • 1 vote
#34.13 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:32 AM EST

but it seemed odd that when it's here, than it shows up on say yahoo the next day.

Really? Can you provide a link to an example?

  • 2 votes
#34.14 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 11:11 AM EST

Yahoo is in decline, and is probably the last to get a story.

What happens is, somebody like maddad finds a story somewhere, and seeds it here. Then AP picks up the story from the same source that maddad seeded, and sends it to Yahoo.

It's been a long time since anybody got a RAV for being a Johnny-on-the-spot reporter.

  • 6 votes
#34.15 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST

It is December 3rd, the article dated Nov 16th and update on the 19th of November... is there anything happening that hasn't been mentioned or updated since the 19th.. other than the fact that many of us cannot add AdSense?

  • 8 votes
#34.16 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 11:36 AM EST

SRO... It looks like that has happened to me twice since I've been on Newsvine (maybe more times, but twice was all that I was aware of). I had picked up the storyline from a commercial blog, and later that day or the next day, it appeared on AP. I couldn't help but wonder if we are used by others that way all of the time. ..Oh, one time, I had a soft science topic article that was my own written article, and the next day WDN had an article about the topic, using some of my thoughts!!

  • 6 votes
#34.17 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:11 PM EST

I couldn't help but wonder if we are used by others that way all of the time.

I feel sure of it, because with all the news sources currently quoting each other, it seems like a free for all with copying stories!

It happens to me all the time. I post an original story from Britain, that I alone have dealt with, and as soon as possible AP has a story on it from another angle. It is easy to prove with my articles, as I am on the spot here in Britain when British news break.

  • 5 votes
#34.18 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:41 PM EST

MsC.... It really bothers me, too. That's why I won't write original pieces with linked research - it's doing someone else's homework for them, possibly, and they are getting paid by their hostsite, while we are doing it for free (well, my small $50.00 a year means "free" to me:). Or, maybe the larger point should be when we seed them, they are getting recognition, but when they steal our ideas, we are not.

In your situation, you are prolific and original quite often. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

  • 6 votes
#34.19 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:55 PM EST

In your situation, you are prolific and original quite often. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

Yes, I accept that, thanks CL1. But what can one do?

I guess as long a I get some recompense, whether through Adsense or not, I won't worry about it too much.

Or, maybe the larger point should be when we seed them, they are getting recognition, but when they steal our ideas, we are not.

An excellent point which really sums it up!

  • 4 votes
#34.20 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 2:29 PM EST

I started with barely 200 readers per month back then, which steadied at 1200 for a couple of years. Now it's 68,000 per month

How in the world do you know that?

  • 3 votes
#34.21 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:23 PM EST

Simple, rescue dog: the page you are directed to for your Adsense earnings on Newsvine, just below that is one for Google Analytics. Once you get your account, just go over to the Analytics section and complete a form for that too, and you get the code to put on your Newsvine column to track the daily traffic to your site. It tells you the most popular articles and seeds on your column, the number of readers, pages viewed, from which country, and at what times etc. TONS of information which I have found useful for my own websites.

For example, yesterday I had 2260 people who visited my column, and 4007 page views. It's very easy to do. :o)

In fact I have just got a brainwave suggestion for everyone: It might be easier to forget the Adsense for a little while, go for Analytics instead as your account. Then when you have that account running okay, just fill out the Adsense part. That's how I started on Newsvine, with Analytics. I believe that because I already had Newsvine as an account being monitored by Google, it was easier to add my Adsense two weeks ago, without the subdomain name being rejected.

Just a thought, guys. Would be good to try and see what happens.

  • 6 votes
#34.22 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:38 PM EST

Analytics

I've had that for over 3 years now...

  • 5 votes
#34.23 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:58 PM EST

Now it's 68,000 per month

Wow! Congratulations! I am not surprised that the number is big, I just didn't know how big. ..Always interesting, and I am proud to be a follower of yours.

  • 2 votes
#34.24 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 6:24 PM EST

I've had that for over 3 years now...

Ah well, there goes my theory, Par4.

However, if you have had Analytics, perhaps the two are completely separate and I'm mixing them up! Blame it on senility. :o(

I have just double checked and they are separate. I obviously had Adsense before for my websites, so adding Newsvine was no problem.

I am proud to be a follower of yours.

And I'm equally proud to have your friendship, CL1. (*cheers up again brightly*) :o)

  • 5 votes
#34.25 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 6:38 PM EST

I am not surprised that the number is big, I just didn't know how big

That figure is not always permanent, CL1. Any traffic fluctuates according to the popularity of the articles/seeds. That's why sometimes I am frankly amazed at which articles grab the attention, because often the ones I think will do it just sink without trace!! One thing is clear: a steady regular effort achieves far more to build up an audience than sporadic successes.

  • 5 votes
#34.26 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 6:48 PM EST

Thank you! :)

That's interesting how what we think will be attractive sometimes isn't, and what we think will be less popular, sometimes isn't. We just never know what to expect. Consistency makes sense, though, doesn't it.. What's your opinion about blogs?

  • 2 votes
#34.27 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:12 PM EST

However, if you have had Analytics, perhaps the two are completely separate and I'm mixing them up! Blame it on senility. :o(

That's what I do around my house and with my friends.. blame it on them or old age.. lol

  • 3 votes
#34.28 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:12 PM EST

LOL..ha ha.

  • 3 votes
#34.29 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:19 PM EST

What's your opinion about blogs?

I think they are excellent. Perfect way to have an individual platform about one's interests or passions.

  • 2 votes
#34.30 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:20 PM EST

I think so, too. Thanks for your thoughts on that!

  • 2 votes
#34.31 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:29 PM EST
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Is it possible that NBC is opting to end the revenue payout contract, leaving individual to create their own (through Adsense), sell the non-individualised sites to Adsence for its own revenue, and charge monthly subscriptions to Viners with blogs?

  • 1 vote
Reply#35 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 8:58 PM EST

No, that seems a little far fetched just now, warrior. I think it is a simple case of Newsvine not wishing to have the bother and expense anymore of paying contributors. It's not at the top of their priority.

  • 7 votes
#35.1 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:47 AM EST
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Won't let me register using my newsvine page. Says no subdomains. So I'm not going to bother. I'm not here for the income, anyway.

  • 1 vote
Reply#36 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 10:39 PM EST

Maybe they are rejecting everyone right now until the higher ups can agree on some things. They started out by rejecting for adult content and that may have caught Newsvine by surprise so until that gets staightened out they are giving technical reasons for not accepting more. It could also explain why we haven't heard back from anyone. Talks ongoing.

  • 5 votes
#36.1 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 11:17 PM EST

Just wait until aljizzerror tries to sign up for Adsense. Then all of you who have been rejected so far will be immediately reinstated. I'm not saying anything bad about al's content, just that it can be somewhat risque', he does push the envelope at times, and I'm thinking will help set the standard for Google.

  • 3 votes
#36.2 - Sun Dec 2, 2012 11:21 PM EST
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OKAY, MsCyprah,

I'm clearly dumber than dirt.........I do know medicine however. I went to sign up for the analytics and these are the instructions.

Set Up Tracking for Web Properties

How to set up the web tracking code

Next: Verify your web tracking setup

BEFORE YOU BEGIN: To set up tracking, you need to have access to the source code for your website. If you're already tracking your website using an older tracking snippet, remove that snippet from each page before you add the new one. If you have customizations you want to add back to your pages after you add the new snippet, you can use a text or HTML editor to open and save a copy of each file. (Looking for the traditional snippet? See Using the Traditional Tracking Code Snippet

The following instructions describe how to add the tracking snippet to your site. They assume two things:

  1. First, find the tracking code snippet for your property.
    1. From any Analytics page, click Admin.
    2. Select the property you want to track.
    3. Check that the URL at the top matches the one for your website.
      If the settings are showing the wrong web property, click the link in the breadcrumb trail for your account, and select the correct property from the list.
    4. Click the Tracking Info tab.

    You'll see something similar to the code snippet below, where XXXXX-Y indicates the property ID.

    <script type="text/javascript">
    
      var _gaq = _gaq || [];
      _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-XXXXX-Y']);
      _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
    
      (function() {
        var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
        ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
        var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
      })();
    
    </script>
  2. Turn on the tracking options you want, then click Save.
  3. Copy and place the code snippet
    Once you find the code snippet, copy and paste it into your web page, just before the closing </head> tag*. If your website uses templates to generate pages, enter it just before the closing</head> tag in the file that contains the <head> section. (Most websites re-use one file for common content, so it's likely that you won't have to place the code snippet on every single page of your website.)

    For the best performance across all browsers we suggest you position other scripts in your site in one of these ways:

    • before the tracking code snippet in the <head> section of your HTML
    • after both the tracking code snippet and all page content (e.g. at the bottom of the HTML body)
  4. Verify and customize

    Verify that your tracking code contains the correct web property ID for your profile (it should if you copied it from the Profile Settings screen). Double-check that the tracking snippet installed on your website matches the code shown in the profile. For more details on verifying your setup, see Verifying your setup.

    Add any customizations back in using the asynchronous syntax. The Usage Guide and Migration Examples (English only) on Google Code provide many examples of customizations with asynchronous tracking.

*One of the main advantages of the asynchronous snippet is that you can position it at the top of the HTML document. This increases the likelihood that the tracking beacon will be sent before the user leaves the page. It is customary to place JavaScript code in the <head> section, and we recommend placing the snippet at the bottom of the <head> section for best performance.

Next: Verify your web tracking setup

WHAT THE HECK IS ALL THAT?????

  • 2 votes
Reply#37 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:16 PM EST

rescue:

WHAT THE HECK IS ALL THAT?????

Irrelevant to Newsvine.

Once you generate the code, click "Account" on the black bar under the top banner above, then "Newsvine" then "Google Analytics" and paste the code in there, then click "Save."

Done and dusted.

  • 7 votes
#37.1 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:25 PM EST

Thank you, my friend....Done and dusted!

  • 2 votes
#37.2 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 7:57 PM EST

Glad to see that Jack helped you there, rescue dogs. I was wondering what all that was myself, as it was a two minute job when I first did it.

You should be able to check it from tomorrow to see if you have any visits! :o)

  • 2 votes
#37.3 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:02 PM EST
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I want to be able to sign on the ad site, at least apply, but I'm sure I'll be revoked. Did you "fix it" by deleting your seed? I'm sure my "how oral sex can cure morning sickness" won't fly under their radar, lol

Perhaps I should send the article to Kate...she's in the hospital on I.V.s

  • 5 votes
Reply#38 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:42 PM EST

Perhaps the British don't engage in such onerous behavior, ;=}

  • 4 votes
#38.1 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:46 PM EST

rescue dog:

Perhaps I should send the article to Kate.

Speak of the devil, I just seeded on that subject.

However, the above link is not off-topic because I wanted to mention that I have Google Analytics AND AdSense AND Google Publisher Toolbar, and putting all that info together I think I made $3.00 on that ad in less than half an hour.

I feel kinda .... guilty. This article went up, I read it and the support article carefully, waited two days, then followed all directions to the letter, including the style instructions (supposedly optional but I wasn't taking any chances) and got my account running no problem.

  • 3 votes
#38.2 - Mon Dec 3, 2012 9:02 PM EST

I feel kinda .... guilty.

Me too...I had no trouble at all with mine, which makes it even more puzzling to me why so many people are having problems. Makes no sense and must be very frustrating for them, especially when management does not seem to be doing much about it.

  • 4 votes
#38.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:36 AM EST

It is confusing. Certainly no one is required to sign up, they just won't receive any revenue from their contributions to NV. I do know the cessation of income will come as a surprise to many viners because a general announcement will not be seen by everyone, just as this article has not been seen by any but a fraction of members.

  • 6 votes
#38.4 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:28 AM EST

You know, it occurs to me that maybe the reason stated for refusal -- the subdomain -- is not the real reason. It may be like those form letters that don't have an option that fits the situation, so you get a generic letter that leaves you scratching your head. Maybe the real problem is some error in the application, a period or comma where it should not be, a blank space where they want you to select something -- whatever.

  • 3 votes
#38.5 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 7:09 PM EST

Good observation, Minnie, otherwise why would many have no problems and others do?

  • 2 votes
#38.6 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:15 AM EST

And maybe they just don't want to have to break it to you that your page views are just too pitiful for them to bother with...

  • 4 votes
#38.7 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:08 PM EST
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$3.00?????????????????????Are you kidding me??????????????

How long ago was that, because it won't take my Newsvine URL.?

I'm in big trouble.....Over the 4 years, I have 198 articles that was classified with, among other tags, "sex"....some are totally innocuous ...but some probably pushed the envelope...I'm sure by Goggles standards....but they were great articles, and I had some fantastic discussions....damn...I'd hate to delete them all....is that's what's required Ms Cyprah?

  • 3 votes
#39 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:02 AM EST

Well if it wouldn't accept me and my pure as the driven snow language. Does it pick up content from our articles and seeds? Our comments? The comments on our articles? What?

The article says Newsvine Now Supports Google Adsense. That might be true, but it doesn't look like Google Adsense is supporting Newsvine.

I have jumped through the hoops after my initial application was declined. Nada. I am not a seeder. I rarely post what I write any more, I just think it's creating more problems than it's solving and people are pissed about this, as if there weren't enough crap going on with the beta testing. Long time viners are leaving.

I'm just frustrated and saddened by this whole mess.

  • 5 votes
#39.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:13 AM EST

Well if it wouldn't accept me and my pure as the driven snow language.

I see a problem on your profile:

Follow the rules, grow up, stop being an @!$%# or get out.

It would be funny if that was all that is holding you back.

Does it pick up content from our articles and seeds?

Yes.

Our comments? The comments on our articles?

It can.

User-generated content

  • We understand that it’s challenging for publishers with an extensive network of sites to constantly monitor every single page. However, it’s important to be aware that any pages containing your ad code must comply with our program policies whether it’s your content or user-generated content.
  • For tips, see our monitoring user-generated content blog post.

It's the perfect weapon for the malicious anti-*something* wars to go on, on Newsvine. Not only can you collapse their comments and articles, now you can hit them in the pocket-book, too. Just by leaving a nasty comment on their article, and then reporting it. Reporting a Violation - AdSense Help. They don't even ask for an email address.

Don't get me wrong, neenie1991. I'm not attacking you. I've been rejected by AdSense myself.

  • 10 votes
#39.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:53 AM EST

Not only can you collapse their comments and articles, now you can hit them in the pocket-book, too. Just by leaving a nasty comment on their article, and then reporting it.

LoL... Omg, that hadn't occurred to me before! This is starting to get more amusing all of the time!

  • 5 votes
#39.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:22 AM EST

Lillian, are you Joy Behar? Your Avatar bears a strong resemblance. :)

  • 2 votes
#39.5 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:50 AM EST

I would have to delete all the seeds..

What I do not like about it... is they are judging a person on what "Has" been and not "Will" be the case. We are not going to go back ..say in my case ..go back on nearly 35,000 seeds and waste my time putting ads on each one of them.. if that's the way this thing works.. and then what they are asking each of us to do is to Censor Speech if someone swears/cusses/vulgarity... On their search pages there are XXX-Rated sites all over the place including nudity.. It is very hypocritical of them to require language control and topic control...

  • 3 votes
#39.6 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:33 AM EST

Par4TheCourse,

Read this all the way through (sorry, not trying to be bossy; do as you like, of course), because I am agreeing with you.

First, the rationale for Google AdSense rejecting certain websites due to content is not based on censorship. This is what is supposed to happen: Companies (call them advertisers) use Google AdWords to arrange for their ads to appear on webpages. They choose keywords etc, and Google matches them up with websites, and readers, who might be most likely to want the products and services they have to offer. There's more to it than that, but some of it is proprietary to Google, and the rest I've forgotten. However, the people who are placing the ads usually don't want their ads being displayed on pages with pornographic or obscene content, unless, of course they are selling similar content. So that is the motivation for Google having content requirements, about no adult content e.g. baby food or statistical analysis software or religious vestment sellers don't want their product ads appearing on YouPorn type websites. That is an extreme example, obviously, but you get the idea. (I am rather confused though, that Google AdSense is so poor at determining the mostly PG-rated content of Newsvine. Their machine language and unstructured text analysis algorithms should be able to figure it out!)

Despite what I just described above, as far as rationale for Google policy, it STILL amazes me that AdSense is giving y'all trouble over so-called obscene or pornographic content. Sex-like topics, that is. I mean, Newsvine is a VERY mild place, in comparison to the Internet-at-large!

For example, on YouTube, which is owned by Google, the comments on videos have all sorts of vile language. Not merely sexual topics, but use of sexual words, often in a hateful and confrontational manner. (Sexual content is not necessarily obscene. It can be informative, as education or public health, and it can also be news-related, and it can be humorous yet inoffensive.) Anyway, my point is that Google runs AdSense on YouTube videos. Why does Google allow that but reject so many Newsvine columns, I wonder?

  • 3 votes
#39.7 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:19 AM EST

Most of my seeds deal with Policing and Politics.. mostly policing authorities.. such as the FBI, SEC, DOL.. etc.. with a few political articles thrown in.. and some Odd-News.. I hate/detest scum who are child predators, human traffickers, and alike .. I also post those who prey on other people via the FBI notices.. Renewable & Alternative forms of energy..

This is what they are saying is Adult content.. What the heck isn't? December 31st is just around the corner.. I haven't decided what I am going to do.. I certainly have allowed things to go by the wayside in the old homestead.. so I may take more time doing what I have to do and get off the computer for a while.. I've been on it since the early 80's.. lol

  • 4 votes
#39.8 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:50 AM EST

I just visited your column, especially noting that SEC irony regarding the disgorgement of ill-gotten gains that didn't seem quite right (like double counting, so to speak). Anyway, I didn't see anything that was remotely inappropriate, by anyone's criteria!

Most of your content is of the same sober nature as a U.S. government website. The remainder is from major media, or even if not, is about serious current events etc. That is just absurd that your Newsvine column wouldn't be deemed acceptable by Google AdSense. I don't understand, not at all.

  • 2 votes
#39.9 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:08 AM EST

I am not alone.... that is what so puzzling/frustrating..

The other problem with AdSense is that if someone writes something that Google does not like ..like for example 'arse'.. and they suspend them until they clean it up.. it is like I mentioned in one post.. Pat Robinson must be the censor

  • 3 votes
#39.10 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:16 AM EST

The article says Newsvine Now Supports Google Adsense. That might be true, but it doesn't look like Google Adsense is supporting Newsvine.

Great point, neenie.

As to the other concerns everyone has, I wouldn't worry too much. From my experience, it seems that Google checking only goes back to recent ARTICLES and not seeds, and also to the tagwords used for them. I say that because I remember writing a similar article with the offending word they objected to, which is STILL on my column, but posted 2 years ago, and nothing has been picked up on that. I thin as soon as you sign up, the monitoring begins, from what you recently did.

I will let you know if I fall foul again, and why.

like for example 'arse'

I really think words like that wouldn't matter, Par4. They really are after the hardened porn words, it seems, because i have covered all manner of subjects and language on my column yet that word was the only one highlighted!

  • 1 vote
#39.11 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:46 AM EST

I have a lot of things to do around the house.. and to my wife's delight I mentioned that I will have time on my hands starting January to do the things I have allowed not to get done. I have some carpentry, electrical, and plumbing to do..and Taxes for the good ol' I.R.S. .. so I will be very busy... Of course I write that now.. January is another month.. and I may remind myself why I never did the 'chores' I should be doing.. and end up not doing.. lol

  • 7 votes
#39.12 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:54 AM EST

LOL...:o)

  • 2 votes
#39.13 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 6:32 AM EST

Follow the rules, grow up, stop being an @!$%# or get out.

It would be funny if that was all that is holding you back.

That would be the least of it. :)

Definitely arbitrary.

  • 3 votes
#39.14 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:21 AM EST

This almost makes me want to really laugh. Link

  • 7 votes
#39.15 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 3:15 AM EST
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.. so I will be very busy... Of course I write that now.. January is another month.. and I may remind myself why I never did the 'chores' I should be doing.. and end up not doing.. lol

and very well written.

About six months ago and again two months ago I tried to set up for the Analytics. I must now have three or four Google accounts, gave identity of three e-mail accounts, retried with six forgotten pass-words, ... and gave up.

But I enjoyed reading about you frustrations. (keeping my fingers crossed that it is do-able).

About content concern: Isn't it quite easy to mark everything private, and then feed it back slowly?

Discovered something: after posting this, adchoices jumped in and de-threaded me onto a new thread.

  • 3 votes
Reply#40 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 7:37 AM EST

I am surprised it sounds right for me at that time of the morning..I am shocked.. I do not usually do that well when I am fully awake.;)

-

So.. IF I went back through a few hundred and mark them private do you think that would work, or will Google skip the ones I marked private and go through a few hundred others that are not marked private.. I have close to 35,000 of them to fool with.. Or I could start now at 65 deleting them and try ever 2-300 by applying? lol

  • 3 votes
#40.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:15 AM EST

Since my archival page doesn't take my request (bug?), Google might not fare better.

  • 2 votes
#40.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:13 PM EST

Since my archival page doesn't take my request (bug?),

May I ask what you mean by your archival page?

  • 3 votes
#40.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:16 PM EST

Archival of comments, seeds, and votes will not show more than the first page. Response to my clicks brings me back to same. Also, your particular comment (#40.3) did not show as 'new'. I could make a list of bugs but am too much of a Luddite; I'll just wait for the change-over to complete first.

  • 4 votes
#40.4 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 3:33 PM EST

Ok, I see what you mean. I have a different program for my account which might be why I didn't know what "page" you were referencing. Out of curiosity, I'll try mine. I have lots of bugs and often missing "new" comments, too. I guess we'll just have to wait, as you say.

  • 3 votes
#40.5 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 4:33 PM EST
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I've been keeping tabs on the comments here since I last commented myself, and see there has been a great deal of discussion, and many not so pleasant experiences of people trying to get on with AdSense and being rejected for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

My question is this.... (A two parter)

1. If the money generated by these ads isn't going to be that much better than what we previously received from the current ad payouts, then why even bother switching?

2. What happens if December 31st rolls around and we just don't switch at all to Google AdSense?

  • 6 votes
#41 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:29 AM EST

What happens if December 31st rolls around and we just don't switch at all to Google AdSense?

Then we won't get paid, Bruce.

  • 3 votes
#41.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:40 AM EST

Well, CL1, I really think my budget can probably withstand the loss of the $1.23 I made on Newsvine since I became a member in February 2010. (All donated to the American Red Cross by the way.)

Which, by the way, if anyone has any earnings that they would like to donate to The American Red Cross for Super Storm Sandy relief, or whatever, here's the link to make that donation BEFORE the earnings are just taken back by Newsvine after December 31st.

As a member of the Newsvine community, you can donate your Newsvine Earnings directly to The American Red Cross, or other charities listed, by clicking on this link below:

https://www.newsvine.com/_tps/_accounts/newsvine/earnings?affiliate=newsvine.com

  • 3 votes
#41.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:00 PM EST

Just over 3 years ago I accidentally came to Newsvine.. I was responding to something and found myself on it.. and that was in the month of August.. it wasn't until the month of January the following year that I realized I was getting paid for blogging, and seeding articles.. I never checked the earnings tab until then .. I never noticed it because it is somewhat hidden in that dark strip..

The lowest I made was in that August of 14 cents.. the rest has averaged under $20.. it helped to put towards my cigarettes being on a fixed income..

  • 6 votes
#41.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:05 PM EST

Bruce, I donated all of my earnings, too. It was about $200.00 over four years. My attitude was that the small amount wasn't going to do much for me, but combined with others, it might do something for someone else.

In reading MsC and jfx.. it sounds like it's possible to earn more than we were with NV. In my case, I'm not willing to give out confidential information (bank account #, SS#, etc.) to a website, so no earnings for me.

__

Par, that was a pleasant surprise, wasn't it!

  • 5 votes
#41.4 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:10 PM EST

Wow! $200. Amazing. You must be really active on these vines, because seriously, in my two and half years I only amassed $1.23. Good for you CL1. That was very generous of you, and I'm sure helps a lot of people in need. You're a good egg!!!

  • 2 votes
#41.5 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:35 PM EST

Thank you, Bruce!

  • 2 votes
#41.6 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:38 PM EST

Over 3 + years that's about what I donated also .. $200.00 .. good for you CL1..

Yes.. a big surprise.. and the marathon was on trying to crack $100 for a month..and it continued to slip away .. My wife and I had to re-introduce ourselves.. that's how much time I have spent online here...

  • 4 votes
#41.7 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:23 PM EST

Well good going for you too Par4! Very generous! Another Good Egg!!! I guess I must have been doing something wrong that I didn't earn crap on those ads. Oh well. Too late to worry about it now.

  • 2 votes
#41.8 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:26 PM EST

Yea.. It's no easy feat..

  • 5 votes
#41.9 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:33 PM EST

It's easy to spend a lot of time here, and everything takes so long, especially when it has to be done intermittently.

Bruce, I doubt you did anything wrong -- it was most likely a 'timing' thing; in the better economies, people were boasting $500.00 a month. When the economy slowed down, so did the payouts. More effort didn't seem to matter much after 2009. Payouts were more dependent on the things that MD had pointed out in his comments about the ads. It sounded like it was a real pain for them to make it all work.

  • 2 votes
#41.10 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:33 PM EST

Well CL1, it's not very likely I will ever figure out this ad thing. And, because of the small payouts, and the problems I have read about, I really don't plan to waste the time trying to sign-up for it.

Hell! I can't even figure out how they rank people on the darn Newsvine Leaderboard! How the heck am I supposed to figure out the Google AdNonSense?

  • 2 votes
#41.11 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:03 PM EST

Try it Bruce.. it can't hurt one way or the other... Damned if you do, damned if you don't.. plus it would be curious to see how you did..

  • 2 votes
#41.12 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:11 PM EST

Maybe I will eventually Par4, but for now I keep reading about all of the folks who sign up and then get rejected for alleged "adult content" so I think I will hold off until Google sets a reasonable standard that most of our friends here can qualify under. I've never been one to be on the leading or bleeding edge. There can be a lot of frustration there.

Good luck to all of you who are the first to try AdSense. Please let me know when it starts working correctly!

  • 2 votes
#41.13 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:20 PM EST

Take it from one with many scars.. you may have something there.. lol

  • 2 votes
#41.14 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:38 PM EST

"AdNonSense" ...Funny, Bruce! I like your thoughts about taking a wait-and-see approach. How would you feel after you've given them all of your private info and then be rejected!

If you haven't used/seeded any swear words or anything sexually implicit, you might get in! On the other hand, as SRO pointed out, anyone could likely sabotage us in comments with language - if that is how it works.

  • 2 votes
#41.15 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:02 PM EST

I had to delete someone today for using the swear word SOB. I didn't want the news vine team to do it. They got after me once for double posting a comment that went with one of my seeds. I didn't know I had done that until I got the email that said one of my comments had been deleted and that I am responsible to moderate my column.

  • 3 votes
#41.16 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:19 PM EST

Rufus, I didn't know the Mods would delete something without giving the greenbox explanation. Interesting to get the email!

So far, they've been really good about giving us an explanation. If I see a deletion and the author claims to not have done it, and there's no greenbox explanation, then I always thought it was the result of commenters using the exclamation button. I think it's five hits on no value and some of the others, and that deletes the comment. If that is not correct, I hope I'm corrected.

  • 2 votes
#41.17 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:39 PM EST

Well in this case it was newsvine. All they said was my comment was deleted and referred to the CoH and when I looked at it there was nothing wrong with the comment but it had been posted twice. So they deleted the second one. No biggie. I just didn't know they were scanning for something like that. Now profanity I could understand but I thought it would be useful for you all to know that yeah, you have to moderate or you can get messed up by someones comments on your page. Lucky that wasn't the case here.

  • 3 votes
#41.18 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 3:57 PM EST

All they said was my comment was deleted and referred to the CoH

You'll get that any time a comment is deleted.

I looked at it there was nothing wrong with the comment but it had been posted twice.

The author/seeder didn't follow the Recommended Guidelines for Newsvine Members when they deleted the duplicate.

  • 3 votes
#41.19 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:11 PM EST

I was the author. The news vine team did the deleting.

  • 2 votes
#41.20 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:32 PM EST

Seriously I was once scolded by Sally for "over moderating", so what the heck can you do about that? All the comments I deleted in that thread I posted an explanation stating which CoH rule was violated, BEFORE I deleted anything. Then Sally comes along and scolds me for over-moderating.

If I can recall which article that was, I can post a link to it if anyone is interested.

  • 2 votes
#41.21 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:35 PM EST

Rufus, Thanks for the info. Yes, it is good to know what can happen. I didn't think they had the time for random stuff like that. Better that than not there at all! ..lol

  • 2 votes
#41.22 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:37 PM EST

You'll get the email, regardless.

  • 1 vote
#41.23 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:44 PM EST

CL1, I know you will remember this #17.28

  • 1 vote
#41.24 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:47 PM EST

LOL... Yep, that's the one I thought you might be referring to, too! I try to not to get involved in those types of discussions, because there's always at least 'one' that acts like that there. ..Wouldn't you know it, I'm *finally* getting immune to some of that kind of stuff, and now we're losing Newsvine. 'Murphy' must be lurking somewhere.

  • 2 votes
#41.25 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:55 PM EST

I was the author. The news vine team did the deleting.

Maybe it was a duplicate seed.

  • 2 votes
#41.26 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:50 PM EST

My wife and I had to re-introduce ourselves.. that's how much time I have spent online here...

Ha ha ha..Par4..Priceless! Thanks for my morning laugh.

  • 4 votes
#41.27 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:20 AM EST
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CL1, a certain number of reports through the exclamation button, causes the post to be collapsed, not deleted.  If the comment is collapsed, then the seeder is unable to delete it.

The collapses are supposed to draw the attention to the "powers that be" and they can delete if warranted.

The problem with the delete button, is when the seeder deletes a comment it deletes every post in that thread.

What I've tried to do if I'm going to delete a comment is copy and paste the none offending posts so they aren't lost.

  • 4 votes
Reply#42 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:14 PM EST

RD, I do know that certain ! button reports cause the "community collapse" notation - I think it's "inflammatory," for one. But I'm pretty sure I remember Dennis telling me 'no value' causes a "delete" notation. I agree, to lose the whole thread as a result of deleting the first one, is a pain. Good idea on the c/p!!!

  • 1 vote
#42.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:43 PM EST

Clicking Advertizing will cause the comment to be deleted. At least it used to. I even did an article on in one time because some people were doing that to another viner and Sally let the cat out of the bag. Sally then went back and deleted all comments, including hers, that referenced the incident. I think (hope) they got the problem fixed. This was a while back.

  • 1 vote
#42.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:13 PM EST

Ng... I remember your article, too. It looked like the idea was to have some things alert the Column owner or Staff, and other things they felt were for the Community to decide. Good intentions, anyway, even if it didn't quite work out the way they hoped. lol

  • 1 vote
#42.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 5:32 PM EST
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Rufus, I had always had my profanity filter on, and recently was told that swearing was not disallowed by the Vine.  I took off my profanity filter to see the difference and there are a lot of cursing and 4 letter words on the Vine.

Now with my profanity filter on, I'm not even aware.  So if someone swears on your article, are we supposed to automatically delete.  I would never have deleted for someone using SOB.

Does someone one else making an off hand comment also eliminate me from adsense or just the article itself.

BTW, that E mail you get with the message about CoH, is a standard E mail that goes out with every delete...it's not sent out by a "person"  it's automatically generated, so yes if I delete a double post the person will get one of the automatic E mails, just as if you went off on someone.  There's no "dings" against your account.

  • 6 votes
Reply#43 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:20 PM EST

So if someone swears on your article, are we supposed to automatically delete. I would never have deleted for someone using SOB.

I thought profanity was allowed on the vine.

  • 2 votes
#43.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:31 PM EST

I thought profanity was allowed on the vine.

It is. I am confused. One problem I have been noticing is people 'editing' profanity themselves. That is a no-no. Use it or don't. We're not supposed to say F!ck it, or go to He!! and stuff like that. Use your filter or swear and own in it. ;)

  • 3 votes
#43.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:36 PM EST

Thank you, I'm glad to know there are no dings. The poster I deleted didn't use the letters SOB but the words and they weren't the fakey spelling some people use. So profanity is permitted ? Maybe I'll just use the ! button and let someone else decide.

  • 2 votes
#43.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:36 PM EST

I thought profanity was allowed on the vine.

Newsvine does allow profanity, enterpe-1641499, regarding the above quote from your comment #43.1.

But Newsvine's User Agreement prohibits using words that are "obscene" or "vulgar."

Below is a quote from and link to the Newsvine User Agreement:

. . . . You agree not to:

  • upload, post or otherwise transmit any User Content that:
    • . . . . is . . . vulgar, obscene. . . ."

Newsvine User Agreement

It is often difficult to decide which specific words of profanity are also obscene and vulgar. Lawyers and judges discuss this issue in court cases.

Personally, I try to avoid using any profanity myself.

And since I use the profanity filter, I avoid seeing much of it on Newsvine. But when I see things like #!$% in comments on articles or seeds, I wonder if that is what the person originally wrote or if the profanity filter mercifully spared my eyes from seeing profanity that others read.

I feel that profanity seldom (if ever) adds anything useful that couldn't be provided by carefully chosen words that are not profanity. And I think that is even more true for obscene and vulgar profanity.

As a side note, based on what I read on one of the Google AdSense webpages (linked to below), Google AdSense allows a limited amount of profanity, but prohibits "excessive profanity."

Google AdSense Program Policies

  • 3 votes
#43.4 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:14 PM EST

I would never have deleted for someone using SOB.

I wouldn't have thought SOB would be a problem. I've seen worse on some comments!!

  • 4 votes
#43.5 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:21 AM EST

(Pat Robinson is watching All of us)

  • 5 votes
#43.6 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:40 AM EST
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This is really bugging me. I went in and deleted the majority of my
"sex" articles. Some were really funny. None showed nudity or porn....but do I have to deleted them all.? One was "Why do couples still love each other, but don't want to have sex anymore

Should that have to go? It's an article about relationships, but it has Sex in the Title and my tag on it. Do I have to delete them all? And are they privy to conversations in private groups. That would be a disaster.

  • 1 vote
#44 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 8:16 PM EST

rescue dogs62, do you feel like you are

Getting SCROOGLED?

bing! bing! bing! bing! bing!

direct

  • 1 vote
#44.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 8:19 PM EST

& I just had to find out what Scroogled is...lol ...I saw something about it somewhere else but didn't check it out. Dang, the stuff these companies do to make a buck. Mislead, mislead should be in a Lot of websites. LOL

  • 1 vote
#44.2 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 9:59 PM EST

The advanced algorithms allow us to be targeted and directed in 'search.'

  • 1 vote
#44.3 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:11 PM EST

I'm not going to bother myself with anything here anymore. I'll just wait-out the change-over. Then, if I like it I'll stay, and look into analytics and maybe adchoices or adsense.

  • 1 vote
#44.4 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:42 PM EST

Off-topic for a second, and I was hoping to be brief. I was curious if what you meant by "Stewardship" wasn't just sharing resources, but rather takes authority? Usually a steward is a manager, yes?

  • 2 votes
#44.5 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:55 PM EST

This is really bugging me. I went in and deleted the majority of my
"sex" articles.

Rescue dog, you really shouldn't have done anything about your articles, unless you are contacted, because 'sex' is a general word used all over the place. I doubt if they would do anything about that,otherwise most of my articles would go, seeing that I mainly deal with relationships!!

No point in worrying about anything until it happens because that just gives more headache than it's worth.

  • 4 votes
#44.6 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:25 AM EST

Rescue dog, you really shouldn't have done anything about your articles, unless you are contacted, because 'sex' is a general word used all over the place.

Just in the topic of plumbing alone one could get into trouble with the Censors, by describing it what a person is doing

  • 3 votes
#44.7 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:43 AM EST

Seems like it, Par4!! :o(

  • 2 votes
#44.8 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:05 AM EST

I was thinking of some of the comments I made on an article about child sexual abuse. It was a case that was particularly heinous and I was explaining the terms and means in a legal sense and it was graphic. So even if I wasn't a regular potty-mouth some comments would potentially be flagged.

I guess well hide and watch.

  • 2 votes
#44.9 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 2:34 PM EST

I have used many words.. although I am not proud it.. I am fined at home $1.00 a word.. I have to accumulate enough for my trip.

  • 4 votes
#44.10 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 2:50 PM EST

I have to accumulate enough for my trip.

If that's how it worked I'd be spending a month in Tuscany.

  • 3 votes
#44.11 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 3:38 PM EST

Italy is where I would set my sights, too (if I can swim to get there:).

  • 4 votes
#44.12 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 3:46 PM EST

Italy is where I would set my sights, too (if I can swim to get there:).

Ha ha..It's a beautiful country. I've been to Venice. Incredibly romantic.

  • 2 votes
#44.13 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST

Italy is where I would set my sights, too (if I can swim to get there:).

Well I don't have a swear jar AND I can't swim. This just gets worse and worse. I guess I'll buy a postcard of Italy and go to Olive Garden.

Ha ha..It's a beautiful country. I've been to Venice. Incredibly romantic.

Sure. Rub it in.

  • 4 votes
#44.14 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:23 PM EST

I guess I'll buy a postcard of Italy and go to Olive Garden.

LOL!

I might have to do that too, since I don't want to fly or get seasick!

(you've always had the best sense of humor, neenie!)

MsC... Venice sounds really good! Another Viner had a write-up of their trip to Italy and had nothing good to say, commenting that it was dirty (they also said they have family there, so they go often) and is getting worse. Probably depends on what city one is in?? Could the economy be downscaling to the point that they don't keep up with litter pick-up to save money?

  • 6 votes
#44.15 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:50 PM EST

Don't go to Olive Garden., they've announced they're cutting employees hours so they won't have to provide them health coverage.

  • 7 votes
#44.16 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:55 PM EST

Probably depends on what city one is in?? Could the economy be downscaling to the point that they don't keep up with litter pick-up to save money?

Good point, CL1. But the main fact of life is that each person CHOOSES what they wish to see. I am more positive than negative and went there to enjoy myself on a one off trip with my ex, so that might have been the difference.

  • 6 votes
#44.17 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:44 PM EST

But the main fact of life is that each person CHOOSES what they wish to see.

I very much agree, MsC.

You remind me of a favorite Emerson quote:

"Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not."

  • 6 votes
#44.18 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 6:07 PM EST

Don't go to Olive Garden., they've announced they're cutting employees hours so they won't have to provide them health coverage.

Ick. I don't go there anyway. I'd rather go have Italian food. :)

  • 4 votes
#44.19 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:02 PM EST

I'd rather go have Italian food.

Me too!

  • 3 votes
#44.20 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:06 PM EST

Hmmm, I just read that Olive Garden is losing customer business lately. Could that be at least one of the reasons that customers are finding other restaurants to go to? (staying away in sympathy with employees who have had hours cut)

Story is here. They blame it partly on bad promotions, ie the anti-Obamacare advertising.

  • 2 votes
#44.21 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:16 PM EST

There was a seed on NV, too, Minnie.

I expect we will see more of this, too. Those with 50 or more employees paying out full benefits to all of their employees and their families will far out-weigh the penalty of 17 (or 14K?). Same as they are doing to individuals with the penalty tax - the whole point for the government is that it doesn't matter to them if the individual or business pays for HC -- it's that the government is bringing in unethical penalty fees for themselves -- of course, they would 'never' admit the truth.

  • 2 votes
#44.22 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:30 PM EST

My guess is they will try this first, and if they get too much public flack, then they will go back to full-time employees and just pay the penalty tax.

  • 3 votes
#44.23 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 9:27 PM EST

Okay, this is off-topic but I have mixed emotions about boycotting these businesses. If I/we don't patronize them it seems like it will cost the very people we would like to see helped, their jobs. I get concerned about the whole cost/benefit issue when it comes to that.

That is all.

:)

  • 3 votes
#44.24 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:29 AM EST

I agree. It's unfortunately a double-edged sword.

  • 3 votes
#44.25 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:34 AM EST

Whether the health-care is a pay-raise, pay-decrease, or same; it is a necessity. Fed compensation is an attempt at encouragement. If prices go up temporarily, they would anyway even without health-care.

  • 1 vote
#44.26 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 3:51 PM EST
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ABSOLUTELY !!!!!

  • 3 votes
Reply#45 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 8:25 PM EST

Looks like you were detracted into a new thread too.

  • 1 vote
#45.1 - Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:45 PM EST
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Ms CYPRAH, Wow, I just clicked on one of your seeds, and alas you are not showing ads again! Did the Google bug strike again? Perhaps it is on my end, and the Google ads are not showing on it, but they were the other day? I actually wish that TPTB would address this issue and update the members as to what is or is not happening. I do however not really expect that to happen until such time as the BETA comes on line!

  • 4 votes
Reply#46 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:37 PM EST

Ms CYPRAH, Wow, I just clicked on one of your seeds, and alas you are not showing ads again!

They seem to be showing on mine, crazyrooster. Nothing happening here, so it could be your end, according to your browser.

I actually wish that TPTB would address this issue and update the members

They probably haven't got any news yet,

  • 1 vote
#46.1 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:14 PM EST
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Perhaps it is on my end,

It's on your end.

A web page isn't really a page any more. It's a script that calls for many parts to come from many places, and then it assembles those parts on your screen. If one of those parts is slow arriving (or doesn't arrive at all) that part of your screen will remain blank.

  • 5 votes
Reply#47 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:49 PM EST

S.R.O.,

It's on your end.

Whew! That's good to hear, I was scared the Google Gods had struck again! Now if only they would allow many of the other NV members to participate in the program, then that part of the transition will be a major success (actually keeping fingers and toes crossed hoping it works out to the good!)!

I wonder why it seems that the ads are showing on almost all other posts, but not on her posts? Maybe my computer is on strike? Oh well, it is no big deal, was only curious..... Thanks for the quick answer! Now, I'm off to get my computer adjusting hammer, gonna get this thing working right......

  • 5 votes
#47.1 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST

crazyrooster, I've always had that, too. Sometimes the ads show and sometimes they don't.

  • 2 votes
#47.2 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST

Sometimes the ads show and sometimes they don't.

Yes, it also depends on whether there is an actual advert to slot in it at that precise moment.

  • 3 votes
#47.3 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:16 PM EST

Thank you for that explanation, MsC. Makes sense that there might not always be one ready to go.

  • 2 votes
#47.4 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:58 PM EST
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Nothing is showing up on my Google Analytic...does it take a few days to catch up?

  • 2 votes
Reply#48 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:47 PM EST

Yes, and it needs people to actually be visiting your column and reading your articles. Give it about a week and see what happens over that time.

Are you sure it is done properly too?

Mine began the very next day showing just a few people/page views at the time

  • 4 votes
#48.1 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:46 PM EST
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I think so, but I've definitely had people on my articles and seeds.

When I go to the analytic page it shows my site.

http://onesearch4-2.newsvine.com/ but nothing

I've had close to 100 comments in the last couple of days.

There a code underneath my site, am I supposed to put that somewhere else?

  • 3 votes
Reply#49 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:51 PM EST

Highlight & Copy the Google Analytics code

At the top of the page in the dark highlighted area between edit content and earnings ..find and click on Account then you will see a Center Tab in the name of "Newsvine.Com"

Then you will see the box Paste your Google Analytics code below:

Then Save.. Voila

  • 4 votes
#49.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:22 AM EST
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O.K. Par4 it worked. The account doesn't open though so there must a waiting period or something.

  • 1 vote
Reply#50 - Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:06 PM EST

Go to the page I cited in 49.1 above and see if that will be more helpful.

  • 1 vote
#50.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:23 AM EST

O.K. Par4 TheCourse I've done this about 5 times already and below the save button for the code it says that you may have to wait 24 hrs. So the more I do this, the longer I wait. They have the info. because they show an account. If it isn't working in two days I will just forget about it. I still have AdSense and that's what's most important. Analytics has been the real bear for me so I'm done with it. Thanks for your help. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

  • 2 votes
#50.2 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:39 AM EST

It takes a day or so to accumulate some information from your Seeds/articles and the Traffic to it..and it will be ongoing.. the more time given to it over a week or two the better... of course again depends on posts/seeds and articles and traffic.

  • 1 vote
#50.3 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:17 AM EST

of course again depends on posts/seeds and articles and traffic.

...the day of the week...if there are flapjacks in the banana patch...if the jugdog has a hangnail...or when the dump truck runs over a mime's bloomers in a hail storm.

Just saying there are variables. Lots of variables.

  • 2 votes
#50.4 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:33 AM EST
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Important question: Since there are some who have managed to get going on Ad Sense and others that for reasons yet to be discovered; who among us has gotten set up on Ad Sense that have very low numbers on "articles" and "seed"? I know that the major players on here have made it on there, with very few (admitted?) problems, but how about those with low numbers? I know the message when I was refused this time was that my "word count" was not high enough and the site had not been established long enough to meet their requirements. I am curious if only those who post articles/seeds often enough will be able to participate or will the small time user be able to benefit as well? Perhaps this is another one of the mile stones that the members will have to aim for, the right to collect money for their words after a certain mark has been reached? Any guesses?

Question #2: Read this and tell me if this applies to NV? I'm not sure, because I am not that familiar with the way Ad Sense has worked in the past, some of you long time users are in a better position to answer that?

http://support.google.com/adsense/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2456470&ctx=as2&rd=1

Thanks in advance for your comments, ideas, and answers! Have a great afternoon....

  • 3 votes
Reply#51 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 4:05 PM EST

Crazyrooster,

I sure don't consider myself a major player, whatever that is, but I seed enough to be on the leader board and couldn't get in, so don't take it personally...I can't even get it to take my application.

  • 2 votes
Reply#52 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:09 PM EST

rescue Dogs, I'm not taking it personal! While I would never author/seed enough content to receive a payout from Google, I am wondering why NV would hitch their advertising wagon to Google. Did you read the link, if I read it correctly it looks as if NV members would not be able to participate for much longer anyway. Perhaps I am not understanding what they are saying and this does not apply to NV? Wouldn't it be nice if TPTB would communicate with the members and tell us what is going on? Oh well, I suppose that would be asking too much....

  • 4 votes
#52.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 11:00 PM EST
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